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Edward Williams
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 Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 12:51 pm Post subject: Nigger |
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How to handle being called a nigger:
Ask the person who called you a nigger:
(1) What is a nigger?
(2) Why are you calling me a nigger?
(3) What do you think should be done with a nigger.
Let the person answer.
The word nigger should only be used in reference to a person that is classified and forced to function as "non-white" in a SYSTEM of white supremacy (racism). Never call another non-white person a nigger directly. Always call people the name they want to be called.
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| Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 10:10 pm Post subject: Re: Nigger |
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| Virtual_GOD wrote: |
| Never call another non-white person a nigger directly. |
Why? |
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Edward Williams
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| Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 10:11 pm Post subject: Re: Nigger |
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| NECKST wrote: |
| Virtual_GOD wrote: |
| Never call another non-white person a nigger directly. |
Why? |
Because it's name-calling and that is non-constructive. If a non-white person says you may call them nigger then it is not non-constructive.
I could be incorrect.
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truthwillsetyoufree
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Hi am new here and would like to respond to the subject matter. The best way to deal with the "N" word is to KILL IT. You 'kill it' by ceasing to use it and denouncing all who do. Remember the deplorable "N" word was a name the white racist faction created to demean blacks. Therefore, it is up to blacks to destroy the term by completely ceasing to use it.
No other ethnic group goes around calling themselves the deragotory terms that white racists devils created for them but blacks. Blacks must wake up to this madness and cease participating in it. Changing the last two letters is NOT the solution. Killing the "N" word is the only solution to setting the captive free. |
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Edward Williams
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| Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 5:03 am Post subject: Re: |
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| truthwillsetyoufree wrote: |
Hi am new here and would like to respond to the subject matter. The best way to deal with the "N" word is to KILL IT. You 'kill it' by ceasing to use it and denouncing all who do. Remember the deplorable "N" word was a name the white racist faction created to demean blacks. Therefore, it is up to blacks to destroy the term by completely ceasing to use it.
No other ethnic group goes around calling themselves the deragotory terms that white racists devils created for them but blacks. Blacks must wake up to this madness and cease participating in it. Changing the last two letters is NOT the solution. Killing the "N" word is the only solution to setting the captive free. |
Welcome truthwillsetyoufree!
Will not using a word or term that describes the condition of people being unjustly subjected to, misused, and/or abused on the basis of color eliminate the condition?
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Dan Freeman
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| Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 10:01 am Post subject: Re: |
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| truthwillsetyoufree wrote: |
Hi am new here and would like to respond to the subject matter. The best way to deal with the "N" word is to KILL IT. You 'kill it' by ceasing to use it and denouncing all who do. Remember the deplorable "N" word was a name the white racist faction created to demean blacks. Therefore, it is up to blacks to destroy the term by completely ceasing to use it.
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truthwillsetyoufree,
What is a Nigger exactly?
Winston
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Wickett Fan
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| Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 9:30 pm Post subject: Re: |
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| Edward Williams wrote: |
Will not using a word or term that describes the condition of people being unjustly subjected to, misused, and/or abused on the basis of color eliminate the condition? |
I agree. But to call someone a [nigger] doesn't that say they are less-than-human rather than focus on who is generating their abused condition?
Example; a professor once told me to avoid using the term "slaves" or "the slaves". Instead to use a term that focuses on who generates their opperssed condition. Such as "enslaved" or "enslaved persons". [Enslaved] is a term that better revels truth.
Why not stick with "victim of white supremacy"? This lays out the truth and takes the focus off the victim.
Just a question...
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Josh
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| Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Why not stick with "victim of white supremacy"? This lays out the truth and takes the focus off the victim. |
Because the term NIGGER ends the debate about the existence of White supremacy before it even starts.
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| Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 12:47 am Post subject: Re: |
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| Why not stick with "victim of white supremacy"? This lays out the truth and takes the focus off the victim. |
Because the term NIGGER ends the debate about the existence of White supremacy before it even starts.
Josh |
Do you have an example you can share?
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Edward Williams
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| Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 8:15 am Post subject: Re: |
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| Wickett Fan wrote: |
| Josh wrote: |
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| Why not stick with "victim of white supremacy"? This lays out the truth and takes the focus off the victim. |
Because the term NIGGER ends the debate about the existence of White supremacy before it even starts.
Josh |
Do you have an example you can share? |
Here you are...no pun intended...
Perhaps you'll believe it coming from a white person.
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| Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 12:32 pm Post subject: Re: |
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| Edward Williams wrote: |
| Wickett Fan wrote: |
| Josh wrote: |
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| Why not stick with "victim of white supremacy"? This lays out the truth and takes the focus off the victim. |
Because the term NIGGER ends the debate about the existence of White supremacy before it even starts.
Josh |
Do you have an example you can share? |
Here you are...no pun intended...
Perhaps you'll believe it coming from a white person. |
Perhaps you misunderstood, when I asked for an "example" I ment an example where the use of the term by a black person reveled truth or prevented the mistreatment/exploitation of themselves or other non-white people.
A single white person profiting from the word by describing the violence that usually follows its use by white people or a black person profiting from the word by wallowing in his own dehumanization for the entertainment of white people does not revel truth.
On one hand, Carlan is right that violence follows white peoples use of the word (tell us something we don't know). On the other hand he states no one cares if Richar prior uses the word. Hmmmm... maybe there is a lesson here.
White people have the power to backup the word with oppressive violence against black people. But black people can only dehumanize each other. No one cares about that part...
Neither you nor Josh have taken the time to present a reasoned [arguement] using The Logic about why common usage of the insulting WS/R epiphet "nigger" by VOR should be used above all other choices to describe their condition.
Neither of you have explained using The Logic the "great benefit" that VOR have using this R/WS epiphet term [niggers] to describe themselves and why it outweighs the internal psycological and external political damage that the term does.
I must therefore conclude that you either
1. Don't know how.
2. Don't want to.
3. Don't care.
Which is it?
Till you can take the time to explain this to me in a way I can understand, please don't imply or state that I am a nigger in any discussion. I respect you both, but I cannot comfortably "go there" with you on this one.
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Edward Williams
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I ain't here to argue with you patna. I ain't never said use this word or that word over any other word. Words are just sounds. There is a reason why the use of a sound is causing you so much grief.
You use whichever word works for you and I'll use whichever word works for me. That is what the "United-Independent" part of counter-racist codification is all about.
Whatever word you use, in order to use it in as counter-racist speech and/or action, make sure the word addresses itself to what the racists (white supremacists) are doing...make sure it addresses itself to them. Then it will just be you and them.
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| Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 4:25 pm Post subject: Re: |
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| Wickett Fan wrote: |
| Edward Williams wrote: |
| Wickett Fan wrote: |
| Josh wrote: |
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| Why not stick with "victim of white supremacy"? This lays out the truth and takes the focus off the victim. |
Because the term NIGGER ends the debate about the existence of White supremacy before it even starts.
Josh |
Do you have an example you can share? |
Here you are...no pun intended...
Perhaps you'll believe it coming from a white person. |
Perhaps you misunderstood, when I asked for an "example" I ment an example where the use of the term by a black person reveled truth or prevented the mistreatment/exploitation of themselves or other non-white people.
A single white person profiting from the word by describing the violence that usually follows its use by white people or a black person profiting from the word by wallowing in his own dehumanization for the entertainment of white people does not revel truth.
On one hand, Carlan is right that violence follows white peoples use of the word (tell us something we don't know). On the other hand he states no one cares if Richar prior uses the word. Hmmmm... maybe there is a lesson here.
White people have the power to backup the word with oppressive violence against black people. But black people can only dehumanize each other. No one cares about that part...
Neither you nor Josh have taken the time to present a reasoned [arguement] using The Logic about why common usage of the insulting WS/R epiphet "nigger" by VOR should be used above all other choices to describe their condition.
Neither of you have explained using The Logic the "great benefit" that VOR have using this R/WS epiphet term [niggers] to describe themselves and why it outweighs the internal psycological and external political damage that the term does.
I must therefore conclude that you either
1. Don't know how.
2. Don't want to.
3. Don't care.
Which is it?
Till you can take the time to explain this to me in a way I can understand, please don't imply or state that I am a nigger in any discussion. I respect you both, but I cannot comfortably "go there" with you on this one. |
What's up Wickett Fan, I can feel where you come from. In school, a few of my more african centered hommies created a B-B-Bushes type game where if the N word was said you could get pasted in yourn chest, arm, back of neck, seen? For years after, it never passed my lips. That's thinking with my ego, my emotions. But let me ask, logically, what's the difference in having the lable "Negro" impossed upon you as opposed to having the word "Nigger" impossed on you?
P.S.- Neither term tells you what you are, but what you aren't[/i] |
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Dan Freeman
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| Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 7:40 pm Post subject: Re: |
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| Gnomadd wrote: |
| Wickett Fan wrote: |
| Edward Williams wrote: |
| Wickett Fan wrote: |
| Josh wrote: |
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| Why not stick with "victim of white supremacy"? This lays out the truth and takes the focus off the victim. |
Because the term NIGGER ends the debate about the existence of White supremacy before it even starts.
Josh |
Do you have an example you can share? |
Here you are...no pun intended...
Perhaps you'll believe it coming from a white person. |
Perhaps you misunderstood, when I asked for an "example" I ment an example where the use of the term by a black person reveled truth or prevented the mistreatment/exploitation of themselves or other non-white people.
A single white person profiting from the word by describing the violence that usually follows its use by white people or a black person profiting from the word by wallowing in his own dehumanization for the entertainment of white people does not revel truth.
On one hand, Carlan is right that violence follows white peoples use of the word (tell us something we don't know). On the other hand he states no one cares if Richar prior uses the word. Hmmmm... maybe there is a lesson here.
White people have the power to backup the word with oppressive violence against black people. But black people can only dehumanize each other. No one cares about that part...
Neither you nor Josh have taken the time to present a reasoned [arguement] using The Logic about why common usage of the insulting WS/R epiphet "nigger" by VOR should be used above all other choices to describe their condition.
Neither of you have explained using The Logic the "great benefit" that VOR have using this R/WS epiphet term [niggers] to describe themselves and why it outweighs the internal psycological and external political damage that the term does.
I must therefore conclude that you either
1. Don't know how.
2. Don't want to.
3. Don't care.
Which is it?
Till you can take the time to explain this to me in a way I can understand, please don't imply or state that I am a nigger in any discussion. I respect you both, but I cannot comfortably "go there" with you on this one. |
What's up Wickett Fan, I can feel where you come from. In school, a few of my more african centered hommies created a B-B-Bushes type game where if the N word was said you could get pasted in yourn chest, arm, back of neck, seen? For years after, it never passed my lips. That's thinking with my ego, my emotions. But let me ask, logically, what's the difference in having the lable "Negro" impossed upon you as opposed to having the word "Nigger" impossed on you?
P.S.- Neither term tells you what you are, but what you aren't[/i] |
This shouldn't be a conversation at all on this Work Study Project.
If Niggers have a problem with the word nigger, they should find out how to solve that problem.
Meanwhile, Niggers exist because of a system of Racism/White Supremacy.
That is why the website is focused on How to Replace White Supremacy with Justice.
Winston
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"I say the word nigga 30 times a day...It keeps my teeth white...White people think it, I say it, what a small white world..."--Paul Mooney
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| Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 12:06 am Post subject: |
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Ive got to ask this question because I think it will clear up a lot of confusion.
Ive asked it once, but it was not answered.
Wickett fan,
are you a nigger?
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