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Recently I received an e-mail that prompted a series of responses from HighHouse. If you recall he posted on TheCode.net website as well, if I remember correctly. The e-mails were a request to remove his account from the Counter-Racism Work/Study Project (WSP). Below are the e-mails in question.
E-mail threads, because of the way the responses work, are generally read from bottom to top but I have reformatted the order so that you can read the e-mail thread from the top, which will be the first e-mail sent, to the bottom, which will be the last e-mail sent. If there are any additional e-mails I will post them accordingly - in order.
No other changes have been made to these e-mails in any way shape or form.
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From: "asdf asdf" <flow4422@hotmail.com>
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 8:57 PM
To: edward.williams@counter-racism.com
Subject: Requesting your help
Mr. Williams,
I'm pretty sure you don't remember me, but I'm writing to you to ask for your help. Several years ago, I posted on your website what are, to me, regrettable statements. I don't want to rehash them here, but your action was to publicize my name on your site and now this site and those old posts come up whenever I google myself. As i'm sure you can imagine, I don't want my past and the ideas I held at an immature age to haunt me. So I'm asking for your help in this matter, to delete my presence from your website.
If you would be so kind as to help me in this matter, I'd be grateful. I'm sure you understand the power of changing one's mind -- it's sites like this one that help open up discussion, and it's the embarrassment of reading old postings that help me know who I am today, and who I wish not to be in the future.
Many thanks in advance for your help.
Sincerely,
-D |
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| HighHouse wrote: |
From: "asdf asdf" <flow4422@hotmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 10:40 AM
To: edward.williams@counter-racism.com
Subject: RE: Requesting your help
My name is Dan Hoheisel and the username was HighHouse.
I appreciate your help.
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| HighHouse wrote: |
From: "Dan H" <flow4422@hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 3:16 PM
To: edward.williams@counter-racism.com
Subject: RE: Requesting your help
I had hoped you could delete my posts - all of them if possible. My user profile has no information, but in one thread personal information was posted.
Is it possible to delete a user and in so doing removing all past posts? |
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| Edward Williams wrote: |
From: edward.williams@counter-racism.com
To: flow4422@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: Requesting your help
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 17:41:41 -0700
I see. No Sir, deleting a user will not delete the past posts of that user. Do you think it is possible for the non-white people reading that thread to be able to follow the logic of what is being said and why it is being said without having all of the information that is in the thread?
I'm all for deleting useless information but the primary objective here is to help the people who need help the most, without mistreating anyone.
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| Edward Williams wrote: |
From: edward.williams@counter-racism.com
To: flow4422@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: Requesting your help
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 07:59:40 -0700
Do you think it is possible for the non-white people reading that thread to be able to follow the logic of what is being said and why it is being said without having all of the information that is in the thread?
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| HighHouse wrote: |
From: "Dan H" <flow4422@hotmail.com>
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 1:33 PM
To: edward.williams@counter-racism.com
Subject: RE: Requesting your help
Yes, I think so. There's no reason why they would need my name. |
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| Edward Williams wrote: |
From: "Edward Williams" <edward.williams@counter-racism.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 8:45 AM
To: "Dan H" <flow4422@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Requesting your help
I suspected you would give that response based on the comments you've made in the past. I have considered removing the information you requested, read the thread in question without reading the information you requested be removed along with the responses from Josh Wickett and others, and my conclusion is that without the information you requested be removed the thread would be difficult to follow even for someone who is as retarded as I am. Therefore it is my duty, in the process of guaranteeing that no person is mistreated and also guaranteeing that the person who needs help the most get the most help, to leave the information as is.
Under the SYSTEM of racism (white supremacy) it is non-white people who need help the most. Thank you for your request and comments.
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| HighHouse wrote: |
From: "Dan H" <flow4422@hotmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 11:59 AM
To: edward.williams@counter-racism.com
Subject: RE: Requesting your help
Ok, in the interest of keeping the dialogue intact, and since you believe that removing my name ruins the readability, would you please change the name -- just replace my last name "hoheisel" with a slight misspelling of my name, "hohaisal" -- it wouldn't even change the reading, but would simply remove my name from the search engines. If you could alter the city name as well, I would be most grateful for your help. I know that you are dedicated to preserving the integrity of the online discussion to help broaden the minds of new readers. Please do know that whatever course of action you pursue I sincerely regret those statements I uttered in a time of youth and ignorance.
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| Edward Williams wrote: |
From: "Edward Williams" <edward.williams@counter-racism.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 5:53 PM
To: "Dan H" <flow4422@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Requesting your help
Altering the text of posters, times and dates of posters, logic of threads, etc., is not something that is done on the Counter-Racism Work/Study Project (WSP). we attempted to remove a person from the WSP once before and it became an impossible task to attempt to maintain THE LOGIC of what was being said and done.
The goal objective here is not only "broaden the minds of new readers" but to produce a SYSTEM of justice where no person is mistreated and the person who needs help the most gets the most help.
Edward Williams |
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| HighHouse wrote: |
From: "Dan H" <flow4422@hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 2:38 PM
To: edward.williams@counter-racism.com
Subject: RE: Requesting your help
So you will not alter my private information someone posted on your forums? |
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| Edward Williams wrote: |
From: "Edward Williams" <edward.williams@counter-racism.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 5:05 PM
To: "Dan H" <flow4422@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Requesting your help
No Sir, I will not unless you are able to provide me with a way to satisfy your request and at the same time ensure that no person is mistreated and also ensure that the people who need help the most get the most help. Namely ensure that the non-white people who read the information that you want changed will not be confused by reading it and that the information they read will be true and correct.
Thank you,
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| Edward Williams wrote: |
From: "Edward Williams" <edward.williams@counter-racism.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 5:05 PM
To: "Dan H" <flow4422@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Requesting your help
No Sir, I will not unless you are able to provide me with a way to satisfy your request and at the same time ensure that no person is mistreated and also ensure that the people who need help the most get the most help. Namely ensure that the non-white people who read the information that you want changed will not be confused by reading it and that the information they read will be true and correct.
Thank you,
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If you are still here, is there an update on this? I know its been 10 years so im quite interested in your response about this. I am a VOR |
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