HomeCounter-Racism Radio NetworkCounter-Racism Television NetworkArticlesProjectsCounter-Racism Work/Study ProjectShopping MallContact
Secure DonationsSecure Donations  FAQFAQ  SearchSearch  MemberlistMemberlist  RegisterRegister  ProfileProfile  Log inLog in

White Person or White Supremacist (Racist)?

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Counter-Racism Work/Study Project Forum Index -> Following THE LOGIC
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Edward Williams
Site Admin


Joined: 12 Apr 2003
Posts: 3136
Location: I am from everywhere I've ever been and everywhere I've never been

PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 2:42 pm    Post subject: White Person or White Supremacist (Racist)? Reply with quote

A white male once told me...and he wrote it on paper and signed it...he functions as a white person when he "mistreats a non-white person or witnesses a non-white person being mistreated".

I thought about this for a long time and asked myself if this person is functioning as a white person or a white supremacist (racist). Once I asked myself that question it became clear. The presumption is white people do this all the time and that is the reason any white person that is able to practice white supremacy (racism), in a SYSTEM of white supremacy (racism), is a racist suspect.

Also note that he didn't say he functions as a white person when he "mistreats a non-white person or witnesses a non-white person being mistreated by a white person.". Oh no...he said...and I quote...he functions as a white person when he "mistreats a non-white person or witnesses a non-white person being mistreated". This alone indicates he is aware that white people, collectively speaking, are more POWERFUL than non-white people, and can...at anytime...stop non-white people from mistreating each other.
_________________
What is the reason YOU were born into a SYSTEM of INJUSTICE if not to replace it with a SYSTEM of JUSTICE?


Last edited by Edward Williams on Tue Mar 16, 2004 10:29 am; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Dan Freeman



Joined: 12 Apr 2003
Posts: 651
Location: Wherever I'm sent.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is what I don't understand when I see non white people attemting to come up with other terms to describe a Racist suspects.

"Racial Sympathizer"

"White Asset"

"Counter Racist White person"

"Human"

People, all that shit is confusing.

Using Counter Racist Logic, the catogories for white people are as follows:

Racists/White Supremacists

Racist Suspects.

Why give them any more room to run?

smallz
_________________
Understanding is honoring the truth beneath the surface.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
mel



Joined: 16 Mar 2004
Posts: 65
Location: Philly

PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smallz,

I agree. The terms non-white, suspect white & racist white supremacist are the most reliable terms we non-whites have to use in counter racist science. White people know that words are weapons. When you are at war you don't have time to use a million different weapons to defend yourself. I've found that in using these terms & LOGIC reveals truth so severely that they leave suspect white people (and some non-whites) stunned, with only a heap of words to cover their wounds.
_________________
RWSWJ
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Josh



Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Posts: 796
Location: Closer

PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2004 9:15 am    Post subject: David Duke speaks... Reply with quote

The following is a quote from David Duke where he attempts to explain why he is NOT a White supremacist. He suggests 4 alternative terms such as:

White separatist

White self-determinationist

White heritage advocate

White preservationist



Check out what he says:




"I'll give you an example. There was an article recently on myself and on the convention, and they referred to me and to the people coming to the conference as "White supremacists." That's a term that Jewish supremacists have coined to label any [racially conscious] White person.

I am not a "White supremacist" and I know that you're not,


because 'supremacy' means that you want to rule over other people. And none of us, none of the real thinkers and leaders of this movement are "White supremacists." We don't want to be 'supreme' over others. We simply want our own. Maybe White separatist would be a better term. Or simply White self-determinationist. Or White heritage advocate. Or White preservationist.

But "White supremacist" is not what we are.

We're not trying to rule over Blacks or Jews or Mexicans or any other group. We simply want our own communities, our own society, to reflect that of our forefathers -- what every other race on this planet wants. If we're "White supremacists," then the Japanese are "Japanese supremacists" and the Indians are "Indian supremacists." We are simply White preservationists who believe that we have a right to preserve our heritage, our culture, our freedom, our land, and our values. "


David Duke is an interesting racist suspect because he constantly experiments with language to find better ways to get things done. Im sure you could find past speeches, films and interviews inwhich he expresses support for the practice of White supremacy. But he has refined his approach and now no longer refers to himself or what he does using the term White supremacy.

Also,

He has learned to "hide" the discussion of White peoples greatest fear (loss of ability to practice racism White supremacy) behind a collection of vague undefined terms ; check him out:

"we have a right to preserve our heritage, our culture, our freedom, our land, and our values. "


our

our

our

our

What does he have that he is really fearful of losing?

But most importantly, what does he hafta DO to maintain it?

Follow the logic.

What does a "White separatist" have to DO to be a White separatist?

How separate is separate?

Separate highways?

Separate sewage systems?

Separate telephone lines?

Separate air?



Follow the logic and think about the power dynamic necessary to BE a "White separatist".

Josh
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Edward Williams
Site Admin


Joined: 12 Apr 2003
Posts: 3136
Location: I am from everywhere I've ever been and everywhere I've never been

PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2004 10:44 am    Post subject: Re: David Duke speaks... Reply with quote

Josh wrote:
The following is a quote from David Duke where he attempts to explain why he is NOT a White supremacist. He suggests 4 alternative terms such as:

White separatist

White self-determinationist

White heritage advocate

White preservationist



Check out what he says:




"I'll give you an example. There was an article recently on myself and on the convention, and they referred to me and to the people coming to the conference as "White supremacists." That's a term that Jewish supremacists have coined to label any [racially conscious] White person.

I am not a "White supremacist" and I know that you're not,


because 'supremacy' means that you want to rule over other people. And none of us, none of the real thinkers and leaders of this movement are "White supremacists." We don't want to be 'supreme' over others. We simply want our own. Maybe White separatist would be a better term. Or simply White self-determinationist. Or White heritage advocate. Or White preservationist.

But "White supremacist" is not what we are.

We're not trying to rule over Blacks or Jews or Mexicans or any other group. We simply want our own communities, our own society, to reflect that of our forefathers -- what every other race on this planet wants. If we're "White supremacists," then the Japanese are "Japanese supremacists" and the Indians are "Indian supremacists." We are simply White preservationists who believe that we have a right to preserve our heritage, our culture, our freedom, our land, and our values. "


David Duke is an interesting racist suspect because he constantly experiments with language to find better ways to get things done. Im sure you could find past speeches, films and interviews inwhich he expresses support for the practice of White supremacy. But he has refined his approach and now no longer refers to himself or what he does using the term White supremacy.

Also,

He has learned to "hide" the discussion of White peoples greatest fear (loss of ability to practice racism White supremacy) behind a collection of vague undefined terms ; check him out:

"we have a right to preserve our heritage, our culture, our freedom, our land, and our values. "


our

our

our

our

What does he have that he is really fearful of losing?

But most importantly, what does he hafta DO to maintain it?

Follow the logic.

What does a "White separatist" have to DO to be a White separatist?

How separate is separate?

Separate highways?

Separate sewage systems?

Separate telephone lines?

Separate air?



Follow the logic and think about the power dynamic necessary to BE a "White separatist".

Josh

This is the reason I call them white supremacists. It is positional. White people in this universe are the most POWERFUL people. White people are in the POWERFUL position and all other people, other than white people...the people white people refer to as non-white people, are POWERLESS...meaning having less POWER or no POWER in comparison to the POWER of the white people collectively.

Because white people collectively are the most POWERFUL people in the known universe, they are in charge...they are the only people in charge of all other people. That is the way POWER works...supreme POWER. Not All POWER...meaning whatever or whomever created all people and all things in the universe...supreme POWER in terms of POWER that people have.

One of the things, the main thing, white people do to maintain their POWER structure is to mistreat people they say are not white because they say the people are not white. That is unjust. That is racism...racism for the sake of racism...because white people collective are already the most POWERFUL people in the known universe and they already control all areas of people activity...even in the oceans...and tell all the non-white people where they can go and where they can't go...what they can do and what they can't do.

In terms of a "white separatist", do they want to maintain the current supreme socio-material SYSTEM of white supremacy (racism)? If they want to call themselves "white separatists"...no problem there. The question is are they interested in and involved in promoting a SYSTEM, a universal SYSTEM, where it is guaranteed that no person is mistreated and it is also guaranteed the person that needs help the most get the most help.

There is nothing incorrect about white people having pride in the people that brought them into this world. Keep trying to produce justice and it will not matter what a white person calls themselves...if the white person is against justice you will know because they will oppose what you are doing. If the white person opposes you to the N-th degree...that means they'll kill you.

...but how will that be different from any other day...
_________________
What is the reason YOU were born into a SYSTEM of INJUSTICE if not to replace it with a SYSTEM of JUSTICE?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Dan Freeman



Joined: 12 Apr 2003
Posts: 651
Location: Wherever I'm sent.

PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2004 12:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

mel wrote:
Smallz,

I agree. The terms non-white, suspect white & racist white supremacist are the most reliable terms we non-whites have to use in counter racist science. White people know that words are weapons. When you are at war you don't have time to use a million different weapons to defend yourself. I've found that in using these terms & LOGIC reveals truth so severely that they leave suspect white people (and some non-whites) stunned, with only a heap of words to cover their wounds.


Mel, This has been my expeirience as well.

Just keep FOLLOWING THE LOGIC, and asking questions that lead to the revalation of truth.

That's what I've been told a good Lawyer does.

smallz
_________________
Understanding is honoring the truth beneath the surface.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Edward Williams
Site Admin


Joined: 12 Apr 2003
Posts: 3136
Location: I am from everywhere I've ever been and everywhere I've never been

PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If a person classifies themselves as white and have been classified as white, is accepted as white by other people classified as white...that is as far as a non-white person can go because under the SYSTEM of white supremacy (racism) non-white people can't prove, beyond a shadow of doubt, what a white person says and/or does to be a white person (function) or what a white supremacist (racist) says and/or does to be a white supremacist (racist) - (function).

This is the reason it is necessary for any non-white person to suspect any white person they think is able to be a white supremacist (racist) is a racist suspect.
_________________
What is the reason YOU were born into a SYSTEM of INJUSTICE if not to replace it with a SYSTEM of JUSTICE?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Dan Freeman



Joined: 12 Apr 2003
Posts: 651
Location: Wherever I'm sent.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Not all White people are Racists, but all Racists are White people."

--Neely Fuller Jr.
_________________
Understanding is honoring the truth beneath the surface.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Counter-Racism Work/Study Project Forum Index -> Following THE LOGIC All times are GMT - 4 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group
Web CalendarShopping MallDonations