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Self-Made:  Pronunciation Key
The power and /or ability to do all things at all times without the help of anyone or anything else. (2). A power and/or ability that does not exist yet.
Keep in mind I could be incorrect.
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Dan Freeman
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| Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 8:49 pm Post subject: Re: Self-Made |
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| Trina wrote: |
Self-Made- The power/ and or ability to bring yourself into physical existence without the help of anything else or anyone else.
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What does this have to do with Justice?
Winston
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| Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 8:58 pm Post subject: Re: Self-Made |
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| Trina wrote: |
Self-Made: Pronunciation Key
The power/ and or ability to bring yourself into physical existence without the help of anything else or anyone else.
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Who on this planet has ever brought themselves "into physical existence without the help of anything or anyone else"?
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Trina
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| Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 9:07 pm Post subject: Re: Self-Made |
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| Winston Wolfe wrote: |
| Trina wrote: |
Self-Made- The power/ and or ability to bring yourself into physical existence without the help of anything else or anyone else.
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What does this have to do with Justice?
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I don't know.
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Trina
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| Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 9:08 pm Post subject: Re: Self-Made |
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| Edward Williams wrote: |
| Trina wrote: |
Self-Made: Pronunciation Key
The power/ and or ability to bring yourself into physical existence without the help of anything else or anyone else.
Trina |
Who on this planet has ever brought themselves "into physical existence without the help of anything or anyone else"? |
No one that I know of.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 9:19 pm Post subject: Re: Self-Made |
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| Trina wrote: |
| Edward Williams wrote: |
| Trina wrote: |
Self-Made: Pronunciation Key
The power/ and or ability to bring yourself into physical existence without the help of anything else or anyone else.
Trina |
Who on this planet has ever brought themselves "into physical existence without the help of anything or anyone else"? |
No one that I know of. |
What are the logical mechanics for bringing oneself "into physical existence without the help of anything or anyone else"?
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| Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 9:35 pm Post subject: Re: Self-Made |
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| Winston Wolfe wrote: |
| Trina wrote: |
Self-Made- The power/ and or ability to bring yourself into physical existence without the help of anything else or anyone else.
Trina |
What does this have to do with Justice?
Winston |
The defintion will counter the deceptive use and/or promotion of the phrase by racist suspects to lead non-white people to incorrectly believe that they should not ask the most powerful people (Racist/White Supremacists) for help in eliminating their pitiful condition.
This could be incorrect.
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Edward Williams
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| Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 10:24 am Post subject: Re: Self-Made |
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| Trina wrote: |
Self-Made: Pronunciation Key
The power and /or ability to bring yourself into physical existence without the help of anyone else or anything else. 2.) An ability or power that does not yet exist.
Trina |
How?
You've stated that this is something that could exist but it doesn't exist yet and now I'm asking how...what are the logical mechanics for it to exist. How do we get from "self-made" not existing now to "self-made" existing in the future? What is the step-by-step process for people to get from where they are now to a point where they can "bring themselves into physical existence without the help of anyone or anything"? How will the people know they can bring themselves into physical existence if they are not already in a physical existence? What "existence" are people in if it is not physical?
If we do not know how (the logical mechanics) to bring "self-made" as defined above into existence what is the practical value of posting the definition at all?
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| Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 5:17 pm Post subject: Re: Self-Made |
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| HelixHair wrote: |
| Winston Wolfe wrote: |
| Trina wrote: |
Self-Made- The power/ and or ability to bring yourself into physical existence without the help of anything else or anyone else.
Trina |
What does this have to do with Justice?
Winston |
The defintion will counter the deceptive use and/or promotion of the phrase by racist suspects to lead non-white people to incorrectly believe that they should not ask the most powerful people (Racist/White Supremacists) for help in eliminating their pitiful condition.
This could be incorrect. |
What are the mechanics for how the defintion will counter the deceptive use and/or promotion of the phrase by racist suspects to lead non-white people to incorrectly believe that they should not ask the most powerful people (Racist/White Supremacists) for help in eliminating their pitiful condition?
Winston
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HelixHair
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| Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 4:01 am Post subject: Re: Self-Made |
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| Winston Wolfe wrote: |
| HelixHair wrote: |
| Winston Wolfe wrote: |
| Trina wrote: |
Self-Made- The power/ and or ability to bring yourself into physical existence without the help of anything else or anyone else.
Trina |
What does this have to do with Justice?
Winston |
The defintion will counter the deceptive use and/or promotion of the phrase by racist suspects to lead non-white people to incorrectly believe that they should not ask the most powerful people (Racist/White Supremacists) for help in eliminating their pitiful condition.
This could be incorrect. |
What are the mechanics for how the defintion will counter the deceptive use and/or promotion of the phrase by racist suspects to lead non-white people to incorrectly believe that they should not ask the most powerful people (Racist/White Supremacists) for help in eliminating their pitiful condition?
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The word 'self-made" is often used by racist suspects to criticize the meager amounts of help that non-white people receive from racist susuapects.
When the word is used, the person using it should be asked, "Did the person you have described as 'self-made' bring him/herself into physical existence without the help of anything else or anyone else?"
The only logical answer will be no.
Further, anything the person says was done without the help of anyone else, will be revealed to be a false statement using the logic brought forward by Trina. People arrange things. They make nothing. And, even arrangements require a support system. That is why non-white people can not be "married" under the system of Racism (White Supremacy).
When it becomes clear that everyone must have help to do anything, the logical next question is ,"Who needs the most help?" Justice = securing the correct treatment of everyone and the most help for the persons who need the most help. During the existence of Racism (White Supremacy), the persons who need the most help will ususally be non-white people.
This could be incorrect
By the way, Winston, from my observations, you are just as capable of stating these logical mechanics as I. Do you agree?
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Trina
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| Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 6:28 am Post subject: Re: Self-Made |
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| Edward Williams wrote: |
| Trina wrote: |
Self-Made: Pronunciation Key
The power and /or ability to bring yourself into physical existence without the help of anyone else or anything else. 2.) An ability or power that does not yet exist.
Keep in mind I could be incorrect.
Trina |
How?
You've stated that this is something that could exist but it doesn't exist yet and now I'm asking how...what are the logical mechanics for it to exist. How do we get from "self-made" not existing now to "self-made" existing in the future? What is the step-by-step process for people to get from where they are now to a point where they can "bring themselves into physical existence without the help of anyone or anything"? How will the people know they can bring themselves into physical existence if they are not already in a physical existence? What "existence" are people in if it is not physical?
If we do not know how (the logical mechanics) to bring "self-made" as defined above into existence what is the practical value of posting the definition at all? |
Now that I have had time to think about it some more, I have modified my definition. I am still in the process of refining .
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