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Victim:  Pronunciation Key
Any living creature that is harmed.
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| Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 12:26 pm Post subject: Re: Victim |
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Living and harm go hand in hand to some extent. In the cycle of life the death one creature furthers another
Who is not a victim?
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Edward Williams
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| Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 3:20 pm Post subject: Re: Victim |
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| Dark Switch wrote: |
Living and harm go hand in hand to some extent. In the cycle of life the death one creature furthers another
Who is not a victim? |
I don't know. Everyone could be a vixtim of something such as cancer or bad eyesight. Only non-white people are victims of racism (white supremacy).
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Dark Switch
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| Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 7:50 am Post subject: Re: Victim |
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| Edward Williams wrote: |
| Dark Switch wrote: |
Living and harm go hand in hand to some extent. In the cycle of life the death one creature furthers another
Who is not a victim? |
I don't know. Everyone could be a vixtim of something such as cancer or bad eyesight. Only non-white people are victims of racism (white supremacy). |
The definition of "victim of racism" should suffice then.
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Edward Williams
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| Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 8:00 am Post subject: Re: Victim |
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| Dark Switch wrote: |
| Edward Williams wrote: |
| Dark Switch wrote: |
Living and harm go hand in hand to some extent. In the cycle of life the death one creature furthers another
Who is not a victim? |
I don't know. Everyone could be a vixtim of something such as cancer or bad eyesight. Only non-white people are victims of racism (white supremacy). |
A definition of "victim of racism" should suffice then. |
You could be correct. Non-white people are so niggerized that we say we are not victims and at the same time say we need "Affirmative Action". There is no need for "Affirmative Action", which is so-called compensatory speech and/or action for people being mistreated on the basis of color, if we are not being harmed? It is insanity that is brought on by being niggerized and we are niggerized only as a result of white people practicing racism (white supremacy).
With people as niggerized as non-white people it is necessary to take baby steps toward promoting justice and correctness so we first have to understand what a victim is so that we'll stop always claiming we are not one when the white people who practice racism (white supremacy) are doing harm to non-white people.
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Dark Switch
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| Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 11:52 am Post subject: |
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If a non-white person's computer breaks down under the SYSTEM of racism (white supremacy) and a white person'computer breaks down for the same reason is that white person a VOR/WS?
If my service is slow and a white person receives the same level of service how am I a VOR/WS and they not?
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James Jones
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| Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 4:05 pm Post subject: Re: Victim |
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How are you defining the word "harm" when you use it? |
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Edward Williams
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| Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 4:41 pm Post subject: Re: |
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| Dark Switch wrote: |
If a non-white person's computer breaks down under the SYSTEM of racism (white supremacy) and a white person'computer breaks down for the same reason is that white person a VOR/WS?
If my service is slow and a white person receives the same level of service how am I a VOR/WS and they not? |
I think the best question to ask is when is a white person not a racist (white supremacist)? I'll tell you why that's the best question to ask...it makes more traction because that is where the conversation is going.
A victim of racism (white supremacy) is mistreated on the basis of color. White people say they are not "colored" people. White people claim not to be a "person of color". If a white person is not "colored" they cannot be mistreated because they are "colored". Now I'll answer your questions...
| Dark Switch wrote: |
| If a non-white person's computer breaks down under the SYSTEM of racism (white supremacy) and a white person's computer breaks down for the same reason is that white person a VOR/WS? |
No, the white person is the victim of computer problems. The non-white person is a victim of computer problems and also a victim of being mistreated on the basis of color because they are in the SYSTEM of racism (white supremacy). Non-white people are going to have to get rid of the SYSTEM of racism (white supremacy) in order to not be a victim of racism (white supremacy).
| Dark Switch wrote: |
| If my service is slow and a white person receives the same level of service how am I a VOR/WS and they not? |
No, the white person is the victim of slow service. The non-white person is a victim of slow service and also a victim of being mistreated on the basis of color because they are in the SYSTEM of racism (white supremacy). Non-white people are going to have to get rid of the SYSTEM of racism (white supremacy) in order to not be a victim of racism (white supremacy).
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Dark Switch
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| Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 5:34 am Post subject: Re: |
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| Edward Williams wrote: |
| Dark Switch wrote: |
If a non-white person's computer breaks down under the SYSTEM of racism (white supremacy) and a white person'computer breaks down for the same reason is that white person a VOR/WS?
If my service is slow and a white person receives the same level of service how am I a VOR/WS and they not? |
I think the best question to ask is when is a white person not a racist (white supremacist)? I'll tell you why that's the best question to ask...it makes more traction because that is where the conversation is going.
A victim of racism (white supremacy) is mistreated on the basis of color. White people say they are not "colored" people. White people claim not to be a "person of color". If a white person is not "colored" they cannot be mistreated because they are "colored". Now I'll answer your questions...
| Dark Switch wrote: |
| If a non-white person's computer breaks down under the SYSTEM of racism (white supremacy) and a white person's computer breaks down for the same reason is that white person a VOR/WS? |
No, the white person is the victim of computer problems. The non-white person is a victim of computer problems and also a victim of being mistreated on the basis of color because they are in the SYSTEM of racism (white supremacy). Non-white people are going to have to get rid of the SYSTEM of racism (white supremacy) in order to not be a victim of racism (white supremacy).
| Dark Switch wrote: |
| If my service is slow and a white person receives the same level of service how am I a VOR/WS and they not? |
No, the white person is the victim of slow service. The non-white person is a victim of slow service and also a victim of being mistreated on the basis of color because they are in the SYSTEM of racism (white supremacy). Non-white people are going to have to get rid of the SYSTEM of racism (white supremacy) in order to not be a victim of racism (white supremacy). |
Ok, they are always a racist suspect.
So the white person's best policy is to talk about his computer to get his computer fixed quickly, and the non-white person should talk about the system of racism (white supremacy) to get his fixed?
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Edward Williams
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| Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 8:17 am Post subject: Re: |
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| Dark Switch wrote: |
| Edward Williams wrote: |
| Dark Switch wrote: |
If a non-white person's computer breaks down under the SYSTEM of racism (white supremacy) and a white person'computer breaks down for the same reason is that white person a VOR/WS?
If my service is slow and a white person receives the same level of service how am I a VOR/WS and they not? |
I think the best question to ask is when is a white person not a racist (white supremacist)? I'll tell you why that's the best question to ask...it makes more traction because that is where the conversation is going.
A victim of racism (white supremacy) is mistreated on the basis of color. White people say they are not "colored" people. White people claim not to be a "person of color". If a white person is not "colored" they cannot be mistreated because they are "colored". Now I'll answer your questions...
| Dark Switch wrote: |
| If a non-white person's computer breaks down under the SYSTEM of racism (white supremacy) and a white person's computer breaks down for the same reason is that white person a VOR/WS? |
No, the white person is the victim of computer problems. The non-white person is a victim of computer problems and also a victim of being mistreated on the basis of color because they are in the SYSTEM of racism (white supremacy). Non-white people are going to have to get rid of the SYSTEM of racism (white supremacy) in order to not be a victim of racism (white supremacy).
| Dark Switch wrote: |
| If my service is slow and a white person receives the same level of service how am I a VOR/WS and they not? |
No, the white person is the victim of slow service. The non-white person is a victim of slow service and also a victim of being mistreated on the basis of color because they are in the SYSTEM of racism (white supremacy). Non-white people are going to have to get rid of the SYSTEM of racism (white supremacy) in order to not be a victim of racism (white supremacy). |
Ok, they are always a racist suspect.
So the white person's best policy is to talk about his computer to get his computer fixed quickly, and the non-white person should talk about the system of racism (white supremacy) to get his fixed? |
What problem are you trying to solve?
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| Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 11:32 am Post subject: Re: |
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| Edward Williams wrote: |
| Dark Switch wrote: |
| Edward Williams wrote: |
| Dark Switch wrote: |
If a non-white person's computer breaks down under the SYSTEM of racism (white supremacy) and a white person'computer breaks down for the same reason is that white person a VOR/WS?
If my service is slow and a white person receives the same level of service how am I a VOR/WS and they not? |
I think the best question to ask is when is a white person not a racist (white supremacist)? I'll tell you why that's the best question to ask...it makes more traction because that is where the conversation is going.
A victim of racism (white supremacy) is mistreated on the basis of color. White people say they are not "colored" people. White people claim not to be a "person of color". If a white person is not "colored" they cannot be mistreated because they are "colored". Now I'll answer your questions...
| Dark Switch wrote: |
| If a non-white person's computer breaks down under the SYSTEM of racism (white supremacy) and a white person's computer breaks down for the same reason is that white person a VOR/WS? |
No, the white person is the victim of computer problems. The non-white person is a victim of computer problems and also a victim of being mistreated on the basis of color because they are in the SYSTEM of racism (white supremacy). Non-white people are going to have to get rid of the SYSTEM of racism (white supremacy) in order to not be a victim of racism (white supremacy).
| Dark Switch wrote: |
| If my service is slow and a white person receives the same level of service how am I a VOR/WS and they not? |
No, the white person is the victim of slow service. The non-white person is a victim of slow service and also a victim of being mistreated on the basis of color because they are in the SYSTEM of racism (white supremacy). Non-white people are going to have to get rid of the SYSTEM of racism (white supremacy) in order to not be a victim of racism (white supremacy). |
Ok, they are always a racist suspect.
So the white person's best policy is to talk about his computer to get his computer fixed quickly, and the non-white person should talk about the system of racism (white supremacy) to get his fixed? |
What problem are you trying to solve? |
I had thought it best to answer in the thread Deception:, because that is where my definition of this problem started. The problem is how to begin the conversation with white people about promoting justice and them stopping practicing racism (white supremacy).
I want the most constructive way of opening up the topic, in a way that does not add to the particular problem I am dealing with that day. When a problem arises in my daily life, that means I have two problems: whatever that "little" problem is and the greater problem of being a VOR/WS.
The problem is which problem to tackle in a particular instance of mistreatment or not receiving the help I need.
That is what I was trying to do in the other thread. Any clearer?
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Edward Williams
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| Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 12:34 pm Post subject: Re: |
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| Dark Switch wrote: |
| Edward Williams wrote: |
| Dark Switch wrote: |
| Edward Williams wrote: |
| Dark Switch wrote: |
If a non-white person's computer breaks down under the SYSTEM of racism (white supremacy) and a white person'computer breaks down for the same reason is that white person a VOR/WS?
If my service is slow and a white person receives the same level of service how am I a VOR/WS and they not? |
I think the best question to ask is when is a white person not a racist (white supremacist)? I'll tell you why that's the best question to ask...it makes more traction because that is where the conversation is going.
A victim of racism (white supremacy) is mistreated on the basis of color. White people say they are not "colored" people. White people claim not to be a "person of color". If a white person is not "colored" they cannot be mistreated because they are "colored". Now I'll answer your questions...
| Dark Switch wrote: |
| If a non-white person's computer breaks down under the SYSTEM of racism (white supremacy) and a white person's computer breaks down for the same reason is that white person a VOR/WS? |
No, the white person is the victim of computer problems. The non-white person is a victim of computer problems and also a victim of being mistreated on the basis of color because they are in the SYSTEM of racism (white supremacy). Non-white people are going to have to get rid of the SYSTEM of racism (white supremacy) in order to not be a victim of racism (white supremacy).
| Dark Switch wrote: |
| If my service is slow and a white person receives the same level of service how am I a VOR/WS and they not? |
No, the white person is the victim of slow service. The non-white person is a victim of slow service and also a victim of being mistreated on the basis of color because they are in the SYSTEM of racism (white supremacy). Non-white people are going to have to get rid of the SYSTEM of racism (white supremacy) in order to not be a victim of racism (white supremacy). |
Ok, they are always a racist suspect.
So the white person's best policy is to talk about his computer to get his computer fixed quickly, and the non-white person should talk about the system of racism (white supremacy) to get his fixed? |
What problem are you trying to solve? |
I had thought it best to answer in the thread Deception:, because that is where my definition of this problem started. The problem is how to begin the conversation with white people about promoting justice and them stopping practicing racism (white supremacy).
I want the most constructive way of opening up the topic, in a way that does not add to the particular problem I am dealing with that day. When a problem arises in my daily life, that means I have two problems: whatever that "little" problem is and the greater problem of being a VOR/WS.
The problem is which problem to tackle in a particular instance of mistreatment or not receiving the help I need.
That is what I was trying to do in the other thread. Any clearer? |
Yes.
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| Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 6:38 pm Post subject: Re: |
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| Dark Switch wrote: |
| Edward Williams wrote: |
| Dark Switch wrote: |
| Edward Williams wrote: |
| Dark Switch wrote: |
If a non-white person's computer breaks down under the SYSTEM of racism (white supremacy) and a white person'computer breaks down for the same reason is that white person a VOR/WS?
If my service is slow and a white person receives the same level of service how am I a VOR/WS and they not? |
I think the best question to ask is when is a white person not a racist (white supremacist)? I'll tell you why that's the best question to ask...it makes more traction because that is where the conversation is going.
A victim of racism (white supremacy) is mistreated on the basis of color. White people say they are not "colored" people. White people claim not to be a "person of color". If a white person is not "colored" they cannot be mistreated because they are "colored". Now I'll answer your questions...
| Dark Switch wrote: |
| If a non-white person's computer breaks down under the SYSTEM of racism (white supremacy) and a white person's computer breaks down for the same reason is that white person a VOR/WS? |
No, the white person is the victim of computer problems. The non-white person is a victim of computer problems and also a victim of being mistreated on the basis of color because they are in the SYSTEM of racism (white supremacy). Non-white people are going to have to get rid of the SYSTEM of racism (white supremacy) in order to not be a victim of racism (white supremacy).
| Dark Switch wrote: |
| If my service is slow and a white person receives the same level of service how am I a VOR/WS and they not? |
No, the white person is the victim of slow service. The non-white person is a victim of slow service and also a victim of being mistreated on the basis of color because they are in the SYSTEM of racism (white supremacy). Non-white people are going to have to get rid of the SYSTEM of racism (white supremacy) in order to not be a victim of racism (white supremacy). |
Ok, they are always a racist suspect.
So the white person's best policy is to talk about his computer to get his computer fixed quickly, and the non-white person should talk about the system of racism (white supremacy) to get his fixed? |
What problem are you trying to solve? |
I had thought it best to answer in the thread Deception:, because that is where my definition of this problem started. The problem is how to begin the conversation with white people about promoting justice and them stopping practicing racism (white supremacy).
I want the most constructive way of opening up the topic, in a way that does not add to the particular problem I am dealing with that day. When a problem arises in my daily life, that means I have two problems: whatever that "little" problem is and the greater problem of being a VOR/WS.
The problem is which problem to tackle in a particular instance of mistreatment or not receiving the help I need.
That is what I was trying to do in the other thread. Any clearer? |
Yes.
However, it should be understood that while in a system of racsim/white supremacy it is going to be nearly impossible to speak truthfully about the system of Racsim/White Supremacy without having White people becoming defensive and non-white people becoming embarrassed.
I have found this effect to be an almost "constant value" if you will.
In fact, most if not all of the instances that I have noticed, at some point during the exchange if enough truth is revealed about how the system works, the victims-of-racsim will eventually become embarrassed enought to speak in defense of White People.
The way I open up any conversation on racsim/white supremacy usually starts with:
"What problem are we trying to solve?"
The reason I've decided to use this as a point-of-entry is because no "major" or "minor" problem, that exits between the people of the known universe, can be eliminated until Racism is eliminated....
From this point, it is only a matter of how you wish to approach the problem and of course why you are intrested in solving it to begin with.
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How about using this definition for victim.
Victim: n. A person who is cheated,fooled or injured. the reason being is that all non-white(Moors) people are cheated, fooled or injured in some kind of fashion by White Supremacy Racism whether it's physically or mentaly. what do you think.
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Dan Freeman
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| Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 9:03 pm Post subject: Re: |
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| ThaFlyestMoor wrote: |
How about using this definition for victim.
Victim: n. A person who is cheated,fooled or injured. the reason being is that all non-white(Moors) people are cheated, fooled or injured in some kind of fashion by White Supremacy Racism whether it's physically or mentaly. what do you think. |
Are you a white person?
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