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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 11:31 am    Post subject: Independent Reply with quote

What is really meant when someone says "I'm independent." I am an "independent contractor"." I have my own business, I am financially independent"?

Independent of what or whom?


I have come up with my own definition of Independent . Let me know what you think and if you can help me refine it. I am DEPENDING on you for your input. Okay?

Independent- Not needing anyone or anything in order to exist.

You have no need for air, food, water, or other people to exist.

Most people, and I could be incorrect, NEED/DEPEND on air, water, food and other people in order to exist.

When the term "United Independent" is used as a method to counter Racism/White Supremacy by each individual VOR speaking and/or acting in such a way to counter Racism without the help or aid another VOR, that VOR is still DEPENDING on the Racists/White Supremacists to speak or act in a way towards them that indicates that they are practicing Racism/White Supremacy so that the VOR is compelled or not compelled to act or react to mistreatment. Someone has got to DO or SAY something to YOU. YOU ARE DEPENDING ON IT. You see what I am saying?

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What do you mean when you use the word "independent" and what suggestion are you making for people who attempt to counter the SYSTEM of white supremacy (racism) to use the word "independent" in a correct manner?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 4:53 am    Post subject: Re: Independent Reply with quote

Trina wrote:
What is really meant when someone says "I'm independent." I am an "independent contractor"." I have my own business, I am financially independent"?

Independent of what or whom?


I have come up with my own definition of Independent . Let me know what you think and if you can help me refine it. I am DEPENDING on you for your input. Okay?

Independent- Not needing anyone or anything in order to exist.

You have no need for air, food, water, or other people to exist.

Most people, and I could be incorrect, NEED/DEPEND on air, water, food and other people in order to exist.

When the term "United Independent" is used as a method to counter Racism/White Supremacy by each individual VOR speaking and/or acting in such a way to counter Racism without the help or aid another VOR, that VOR is still DEPENDING on the Racists/White Supremacists to speak or act in a way towards them that indicates that they are practicing Racism/White Supremacy so that the VOR is compelled or not compelled to act or react to mistreatment. Someone has got to DO or SAY something to YOU. YOU ARE DEPENDING ON IT. You see what I am saying?

Trina


Yes. I do. Do you think the word "autonomous" should be used instead of "independent" to describe the "Open Air" method of Counter-Racism?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 9:37 am    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

Virtual_GOD wrote:
What do you mean when you use the word "independent" and what suggestion are you making for people who attempt to counter the SYSTEM of white supremacy (racism) to use the word "independent" in a correct manner?



Virtual_GOD,

When I use the word Independent I mean to not depend on air, water, food or other people to exist and/or function. I say that maybe the word Independent should not be used by people in general and VOR's in particular under the system of White Supremacy/Racism. We depend on the White Surpremacists/Racists for everything including being mistreated based on skin color.
I don't think anyone is "independent" of anyone or anything.

Trina

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 9:58 am    Post subject: Re: Independent Reply with quote

HelixHair wrote:
Trina wrote:
What is really meant when someone says "I'm independent." I am an "independent contractor"." I have my own business, I am financially independent"?

Independent of what or whom?


I have come up with my own definition of Independent . Let me know what you think and if you can help me refine it. I am DEPENDING on you for your input. Okay?

Independent- Not needing anyone or anything in order to exist.

You have no need for air, food, water, or other people to exist.

Most people, and I could be incorrect, NEED/DEPEND on air, water, food and other people in order to exist.

When the term "United Independent" is used as a method to counter Racism/White Supremacy by each individual VOR speaking and/or acting in such a way to counter Racism without the help or aid another VOR, that VOR is still DEPENDING on the Racists/White Supremacists to speak or act in a way towards them that indicates that they are practicing Racism/White Supremacy so that the VOR is compelled or not compelled to act or react to mistreatment. Someone has got to DO or SAY something to YOU. YOU ARE DEPENDING ON IT. You see what I am saying?

Trina


Yes. I do. Do you think the word "autonomous" should be used instead of "independent" to descibe the "Open Air" method of Counter-Racism?



HelixHair,

Define what you mean by "autonomous".
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 11:34 am    Post subject: Re: Independent Reply with quote

Trina wrote:
HelixHair wrote:
Trina wrote:
What is really meant when someone says "I'm independent." I am an "independent contractor"." I have my own business, I am financially independent"?

Independent of what or whom?


I have come up with my own definition of Independent . Let me know what you think and if you can help me refine it. I am DEPENDING on you for your input. Okay?

Independent- Not needing anyone or anything in order to exist.

You have no need for air, food, water, or other people to exist.

Most people, and I could be incorrect, NEED/DEPEND on air, water, food and other people in order to exist.

When the term "United Independent" is used as a method to counter Racism/White Supremacy by each individual VOR speaking and/or acting in such a way to counter Racism without the help or aid another VOR, that VOR is still DEPENDING on the Racists/White Supremacists to speak or act in a way towards them that indicates that they are practicing Racism/White Supremacy so that the VOR is compelled or not compelled to act or react to mistreatment. Someone has got to DO or SAY something to YOU. YOU ARE DEPENDING ON IT. You see what I am saying?

Trina


Yes. I do. Do you think the word "autonomous" should be used instead of "independent" to descibe the "Open Air" method of Counter-Racism?



HelixHair,

Define what you mean by "autonomous".


autonomous = self-governing
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 11:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Independent Reply with quote

HelixHair wrote:
Trina wrote:
HelixHair wrote:
Trina wrote:
What is really meant when someone says "I'm independent." I am an "independent contractor"." I have my own business, I am financially independent"?

Independent of what or whom?


I have come up with my own definition of Independent . Let me know what you think and if you can help me refine it. I am DEPENDING on you for your input. Okay?

Independent- Not needing anyone or anything in order to exist.

You have no need for air, food, water, or other people to exist.

Most people, and I could be incorrect, NEED/DEPEND on air, water, food and other people in order to exist.

When the term "United Independent" is used as a method to counter Racism/White Supremacy by each individual VOR speaking and/or acting in such a way to counter Racism without the help or aid another VOR, that VOR is still DEPENDING on the Racists/White Supremacists to speak or act in a way towards them that indicates that they are practicing Racism/White Supremacy so that the VOR is compelled or not compelled to act or react to mistreatment. Someone has got to DO or SAY something to YOU. YOU ARE DEPENDING ON IT. You see what I am saying?

Trina


Yes. I do. Do you think the word "autonomous" should be used instead of "independent" to descibe the "Open Air" method of Counter-Racism?



HelixHair,

Define what you mean by "autonomous".


autonomous = self-governing


Under the system of White Supremacy/Racism nonwhite people do not govern themselves. The White Supremacists/Racists could be described as being "autonomous". I could be incorrect.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 12:21 am    Post subject: Re: Independent Reply with quote

Trina wrote:
HelixHair wrote:
Trina wrote:
HelixHair wrote:
Trina wrote:
What is really meant when someone says "I'm independent." I am an "independent contractor"." I have my own business, I am financially independent"?

Independent of what or whom?


I have come up with my own definition of Independent . Let me know what you think and if you can help me refine it. I am DEPENDING on you for your input. Okay?

Independent- Not needing anyone or anything in order to exist.

You have no need for air, food, water, or other people to exist.

Most people, and I could be incorrect, NEED/DEPEND on air, water, food and other people in order to exist.

When the term "United Independent" is used as a method to counter Racism/White Supremacy by each individual VOR speaking and/or acting in such a way to counter Racism without the help or aid another VOR, that VOR is still DEPENDING on the Racists/White Supremacists to speak or act in a way towards them that indicates that they are practicing Racism/White Supremacy so that the VOR is compelled or not compelled to act or react to mistreatment. Someone has got to DO or SAY something to YOU. YOU ARE DEPENDING ON IT. You see what I am saying?

Trina


Yes. I do. Do you think the word "autonomous" should be used instead of "independent" to descibe the "Open Air" method of Counter-Racism?



HelixHair,

Define what you mean by "autonomous".


autonomous = self-governing


Under the system of White Supremacy/Racism nonwhite people do not govern themselves. The White Supremacists/Racists could be described as being "autonomous". I could be incorrect.


Yes. But, sometimes, one nigger, acting alone, can cut a wire. In that instance , he/she is "self-governing." Yes or No?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 5:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Independent Reply with quote

HelixHair wrote:
Trina wrote:
HelixHair wrote:
Trina wrote:
HelixHair wrote:
Trina wrote:
What is really meant when someone says "I'm independent." I am an "independent contractor"." I have my own business, I am financially independent"?

Independent of what or whom?


I have come up with my own definition of Independent . Let me know what you think and if you can help me refine it. I am DEPENDING on you for your input. Okay?

Independent- Not needing anyone or anything in order to exist.

You have no need for air, food, water, or other people to exist.

Most people, and I could be incorrect, NEED/DEPEND on air, water, food and other people in order to exist.

When the term "United Independent" is used as a method to counter Racism/White Supremacy by each individual VOR speaking and/or acting in such a way to counter Racism without the help or aid another VOR, that VOR is still DEPENDING on the Racists/White Supremacists to speak or act in a way towards them that indicates that they are practicing Racism/White Supremacy so that the VOR is compelled or not compelled to act or react to mistreatment. Someone has got to DO or SAY something to YOU. YOU ARE DEPENDING ON IT. You see what I am saying?

Trina


Yes. I do. Do you think the word "autonomous" should be used instead of "independent" to descibe the "Open Air" method of Counter-Racism?



HelixHair,

Define what you mean by "autonomous".


autonomous = self-governing


Under the system of White Supremacy/Racism nonwhite people do not govern themselves. The White Supremacists/Racists could be described as being "autonomous". I could be incorrect.


Yes. But, sometimes, one nigger, acting alone, can cut a wire. In that instance , he/she is "self-governing." Yes or No?


No, that nigger is just thinking for her/himself at that moment. To me, self-governing means you have control over yourself at all times and in all places AND you don't have to answer to ANYONE or DEPEND on anyone or anything. I don't think this is the case with niggers under the system of White Supremacy/Racism. I am just saying that the word Independentshould not be used to describe anything that people say or do or even the term United Independent as a term to describe the way VOR's should counter Racism/White Supremacy. Even the White Supremacists/Racist have to count on the existence of NIGGERS so that they can mistreat them and be supreme and powerful over them. Everything depends on every thing. I could be incorrect. Like Neely Fuller said words don't do what they should do and that's why he has come up with new definitions to words that reveal truth and promeote justice.

Trina
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2005 2:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Independent Reply with quote

Trina wrote:
HelixHair wrote:
Trina wrote:
HelixHair wrote:
Trina wrote:
HelixHair wrote:
Trina wrote:
What is really meant when someone says "I'm independent." I am an "independent contractor"." I have my own business, I am financially independent"?

Independent of what or whom?


I have come up with my own definition of Independent . Let me know what you think and if you can help me refine it. I am DEPENDING on you for your input. Okay?

Independent- Not needing anyone or anything in order to exist.

You have no need for air, food, water, or other people to exist.

Most people, and I could be incorrect, NEED/DEPEND on air, water, food and other people in order to exist.

When the term "United Independent" is used as a method to counter Racism/White Supremacy by each individual VOR speaking and/or acting in such a way to counter Racism without the help or aid another VOR, that VOR is still DEPENDING on the Racists/White Supremacists to speak or act in a way towards them that indicates that they are practicing Racism/White Supremacy so that the VOR is compelled or not compelled to act or react to mistreatment. Someone has got to DO or SAY something to YOU. YOU ARE DEPENDING ON IT. You see what I am saying?

Trina


Yes. I do. Do you think the word "autonomous" should be used instead of "independent" to descibe the "Open Air" method of Counter-Racism?



HelixHair,

Define what you mean by "autonomous".


autonomous = self-governing


Under the system of White Supremacy/Racism nonwhite people do not govern themselves. The White Supremacists/Racists could be described as being "autonomous". I could be incorrect.


Yes. But, sometimes, one nigger, acting alone, can cut a wire. In that instance , he/she is "self-governing." Yes or No?


No, that nigger is just thinking for her/himself at that moment. To me, self-governing means you have control over yourself at all times and in all places AND you don't have to answer to ANYONE or DEPEND on anyone or anything. I don't think this is the case with niggers under the system of White Supremacy/Racism. I am just saying that the word Independentshould not be used to describe anything that people say or do or even the term United Independent as a term to describe the way VOR's should counter Racism/White Supremacy. Even the White Supremacists/Racist have to count on the existence of NIGGERS so that they can mistreat them and be supreme and powerful over them. Everything depends on every thing. I could be incorrect. Like Neely Fuller said words don't do what they should do and that's why he has come up with new definitions to words that reveal truth and promeote justice.

Trina
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--I too feel what you are saying,perhaps this suggestion,may stimulate more thought,in regards to this term.

I view the word,Independent,as a personal decision to do something.Something that can be done without the aid or direction of another.A plan unaware of,and not detected by others.By exerting Independence you alone will hold the responsibility if it works,or not,by how you follow the logic in producing the desired effect.

Everything that exists serves some purpose,but by beingIndependent you alone,in your own capacity,and ability,using that which exists for one purpose(s),use it for a totally new purpose.

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