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GMAN_XTREME



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2003 6:55 pm    Post subject: MAN Reply with quote

Man: Pronunciation Key

A male who promotes justice and has the ability to produce justice at all times, in all places in the known universe.

Explaination: I have been told that being a man means:
1) Getting plenty pussy.
2) Fighting/Killing
3) Dominating Females in all areas of people activity (especially SEX)
4) Thinking things through
5) Hiding your emotions (men don't cry)
6) Hiding affection

Those are incorrect. Those characteristics produce conflict and injustice...But on a greater level, they produce confusion. So, to bypass the confusion, I have created this definition for Older males who discuss with younger males about what it means to be a man.

Example:
Child: Dad, kids at school tease me.

Adult: What do they tease you about?

Child: They tell me I won't become a man because I didn't uh.. um.. uh...fuck this girl after school. They call me gay,and the girls laugh at me.

Adult: Don't worry about the names people call you. Worry about action.
Now, Let me tell you what a man is...A man is a male who promotes justice and has the ability to produce justice at all times, in all places in the known universe.

Child: Umm. What's justice?

Adult: Guaranteeing that no person is mistreated and Guaranteeing that those who need help most receive the most help.

Child: Oh. Are you a man?

Adult: I'm attempting to be and so should you.

Child: Why aren't you a man?

Adult: Because I'm subject to White Supremacy/Racism. The racists inhibit my ability to produce justice in all places at all times. If I did
act, without regard to them, I may be killed and be unable to help you and your mother. We are prisoners, son. We are prisoners in a racial prison.When racism/white supremacy is replaced with a system of justice,
Then we will be able to be Men. Because we will not be subject to the racists/white supremacists.

Child: I see. Thanks dad.

Adult: Anytime.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2003 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GMAN_EXTREME,

Is a white male a man under a SYSTEM of white supremacy (racism)?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2003 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No. He is not. Because he does not have the ability to produce justice because the most powerful white males are white supremacists.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2003 9:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

GMAN_XTREME wrote:
No. He is not. Because he does not have the ability to produce justice because the most powerful white males are white supremacists.

White males do not have the ability to produce justice? Why not?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2003 9:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

Virtual_GOD wrote:
GMAN_XTREME wrote:
No. He is not. Because he does not have the ability to produce justice because the most powerful white males are white supremacists.


To be clear about this...I diferentiate White Males and White Superemacist/Racist Males. One is a member while the other is an active member..of the Race.

White males do not have the ability to produce justice? Why not?

Because, the Wite Supremacists/Racists will kill him too.

Remember John Brown? He attempted to aide non-white people and look what happened to him. He was executed.

If a White Male or Female begins producing justice, that would mean that they come in direct threat of white supremacy/racism and the white supremacists/racists will not tolerate it. They will kill them or someone close to them.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2003 10:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

GMAN_XTREME wrote:
Virtual_GOD wrote:
GMAN_XTREME wrote:
No. He is not. Because he does not have the ability to produce justice because the most powerful white males are white supremacists.


To be clear about this...I diferentiate White Males and White Superemacist/Racist Males. One is a member while the other is an active member..of the Race.

White males do not have the ability to produce justice? Why not?

Because, the Wite Supremacists/Racists will kill him too.

Remember John Brown? He attempted to aide non-white people and look what happened to him. He was executed.

If a White Male or Female begins producing justice, that would mean that they come in direct threat of white supremacy/racism and the white supremacists/racists will not tolerate it. They will kill them or someone close to them.

I think there may be some confusion between the "ability" and the "will" to get a job done. According to what you've written no person has the ability to produce justice. If that is true I'd better shut down this website because all of this is just a waste of time. If the white supremacists (racists) or white person do not have the ability to produce justice, and the white supremacists (racists) or white person has more "ability" than a non-white person in a SYSTEM of white supremacy (racism), how can a non-white person have the ability to produce justice?

I contend that there are people in this universe that have the ability to produce justice (replace the SYSTEM of white supremacy (racism) with a SYSTEM of justice). Logically speaking, in any socio-material SYSTEM there are five basic functional categories...

(1) Man
(2) Woman
(3) Boy
(4) Girl
(5) Baby

These categories describe what is done in any socio-material SYSTEM. Boy, Girl, and Baby are all considered children...functionally.

Are the white supremacists (racists) functionally children in a SYSTEM of white supremacy (racism)?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2003 4:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

Virtual_GOD wrote:
I think there may be some confusion between the "ability" and the "will" to get a job done. According to what you've written no person has the ability to produce justice.

Yes, the confusion is between the will and ability. Both must be true. A man has the ability and the will to produce justice.

Virtual_GOD wrote:
If that is true I'd better shut down this website because all of this is just a waste of time.

No, this site is a step toward correcting the problem of Racism/White Supremacy.

Virtual_GOD wrote:
If the white supremacists (racists) or white person do not have the ability to produce justice, and the white supremacists (racists) or white person has more "ability" than a non-white person in a SYSTEM of white supremacy (racism), how can a non-white person have the ability to produce justice?

As said earlier, that's the area that needs refinement. To qualify as a man, both the ability and will to produce justice must be true. Yes, a non-white person and white person can produce justice if they have the ability and will to produce it.

Virtual_GOD wrote:
I contend that there are people in this universe that have the ability to produce justice (replace the SYSTEM of white supremacy (racism) with a SYSTEM of justice). Logically speaking, in any socio-material SYSTEM there are five basic functional categories...

(1) Man
(2) Woman
(3) Boy
(4) Girl
(5) Baby

I would further simplify that to child and adult. Because a boy, girl, and baby must depend on adults to help them. The children cannot care for themselves, they need the adults to care for them.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2003 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are the white supremacists (racists) functionally "adults" or "children" under the SYSTEM of white supremacy (racism)?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2003 8:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

Virtual_GOD wrote:
Are the white supremacists (racists) functionally "adults" or "children" under the SYSTEM of white supremacy (racism)?

The white supremacists function as adults under the SYSTEM of white supremacy (racism).
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2003 9:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

GMAN_XTREME wrote:
Virtual_GOD wrote:
Are the white supremacists (racists) functionally "adults" or "children" under the SYSTEM of white supremacy (racism)?

The white supremacists function as adults under the SYSTEM of white supremacy (racism).

Define "adult".
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Under the sytem of Racism/white supremacy, adult means White Supremacist.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 7:46 am    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

GMAN_XTREME wrote:
Under the sytem of Racism/white supremacy, adult means White Supremacist.

Is a white person that does not pratice white supremacy (racism) an "adult"?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Under the system of R/WS, all people have the "will" do do a thing.

Non-whites have the "will" but not the "way"..
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 4:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

GOODYMAN wrote:
Under the system of R/WS, all people have the "will" do do a thing.

Non-whites have the "will" but not the "way"..

Are you a white person???
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, I am a non-white male, who could also be classified as a nigger in the present system of Racism/White Supremacy.
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