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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2003 3:17 pm    Post subject: Freedom Reply with quote

Freedom: Pronunciation Key


The realisation that one has the ability to choose compensatory thought, speech and or action.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2003 4:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Freedom Reply with quote

copious wrote:
Freedom: Pronunciation Key


The realisation that one has the ability to choose.


The realisation that one has the ability to choose what? HOW does one have the ability to choose? What are the mechanics for that?

If I realize I have the ability to choose to counter racism (white supremacy) am I free? Do I then have freedom?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suspect freedom is "not being subject to". If anyone has a different compensatory definition than this one I'd like to hear it.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 7:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

Just ask yourself...

Is freedom possible for non-whites, under a systems of white supremacy/racism?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 1:57 am    Post subject: United -> Independent Reply with quote

Karim wrote:
Just ask yourself...

Is freedom possible for non-whites, under a systems of white supremacy/racism?


Yes.

All people have freedom at every moment they have the ability to choose. Non-white people just don't have Justice. If tomorrow all non-white people on the planet exercised their freedom to end racism white supremacy regardless of life or death it would end, very swiftly. The white persona plans for this and from birth instills FEAR into non-white people though a varity of methods and techniques using deception, subversion, war, and the threat of war. Thus non-white people stay confused and indecisive because they are lead to believe they have no choice, that they arn't FREE and have no FREEDOM.

That's the MATRIX. Everybody gets to be the one. An Army of 1.

Is this logical and reasonable to you?

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 4:35 am    Post subject: Re: United -> Independent Reply with quote

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Yes.

All people have freedom at every moment they have the ability to choose. Non-white people just don't have Justice. If tomorrow all non-white people on the planet exercised their freedom to end racism white supremacy regardless of life or death it would end, very swiftly. The white persona plans for this and from birth instills FEAR into non-white people though a varity of methods and techniques using deception, subversion, war, and the threat of war. Thus non-white people stay confused and indecisive because they are lead to believe they have no choice, that they arn't FREE and have no FREEDOM.

That's the MATRIX. Everybody gets to be the one. An Army of 1.

Is this logical and reasonable to you?

cope


Thank you Cope,

Let me rephrase my question...

Is "not being oppressed" possible for non-whites, under a system "where whites oppress"?

White Supremacy/Racism: People who classify themselves as white, and who generally function as white, but they practice racial subjugation, base on white, non-white classification, against people classified as non-white in all nine areas of people’s activities.

What say you?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I say:

How do you define "oppress" and "oppressed"?

I'd like to keep the assumptions to a minimum.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can non-white people not be subject to white supremacy (racism) under the SYSTEM of white supremacy (racism)?

This is where the definition makes all the difference. My definition of freedom is "not being subject to". This way I will not think I have obtained "freedom" and still be a nigger under the SYSTEM of white supremacy (racism).

Now if other niggers want to think they have obtained "freedom" that's on them. The truth is that "freedom" is a product of justice...a product of guaranteeing that no person is mistreated and guaranteeing the person that needs help the most gets the most help.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps I should change the definition..

Freedom being what one can do at the time one can do it. Freedom don;t require Justice it just means people CAN act now if they so choose. It eliminates the excuse of inactivity.

Be advised the SCOPE of what one can do is NOT freedom by this definition. That's something else.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 2:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

copious wrote:
I say:

How do you define "oppress" and "oppressed"?

I'd like to keep the assumptions to a minimum.

cope

Oppress--- Holding down

Oppressed--- Held down

Is "not being oppressed" possible for non-whites, under a system "where whites oppress"?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2003 2:56 am    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

Karim wrote:
copious wrote:
I say:

How do you define "oppress" and "oppressed"?

I'd like to keep the assumptions to a minimum.

cope

Oppress--- Holding down

Oppressed--- Held down

Is "not being oppressed" possible for non-whites, under a system "where whites oppress"?


Ok, we are making progress.

In what area of activity do you mean held down?

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2003 3:57 am    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

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Ok, we are making progress.

In what area of activity do you mean held down?

cope

Did you answer my question?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2003 4:12 am    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

Karim wrote:
copious wrote:


Ok, we are making progress.

In what area of activity do you mean held down?

cope

Did you answer my question?


No, I did not.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2003 10:28 am    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

copious wrote:
Karim wrote:
copious wrote:


Ok, we are making progress.

In what area of activity do you mean held down?

cope

Did you answer my question?


No, I did not.

Is "not being oppressed" possible for non-whites, under a system "where whites oppress"?

Why?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2004 1:20 am    Post subject: FREE WILL Reply with quote

I think the the definition of freedom could be apply to this word too.


Is there a defintion for "free will"? I don't believe that WS would allow such a thing.
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