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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 6:58 am    Post subject: Counter-Racism Codetalk Conference Call Reply with quote

We've had a couple of Counter-Racism Codetalk Conference Calls where different people from all over the globe get together to discuss replacing racism (white supremacy) with justice and the various strategies and techniques to do so. LadyJedi I apologize for not including you on the e-mail that went out. You will be included henceforth.

Here is an excerpt from the first session which included Josh Wickett, Edward Williams, and Lisa Fager of IndustryEars.com.
Counter-Racism Codetalk Conference Call (3.5MB MP3 File)

Here is an excerpt from the second session which included Prema, Josh Wickett, Edward Williams, Winston Wolfe, and Mel.
Counter-Racism Codetalk Conference Call (2.5MB MP3 File)

I will make sure each Counter-Racism Codetalk Conference Call is posted on this thread before it takes place and what the conference call number is. It weill also be posted on the Counter-Racism Web Calendar
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 5:57 am    Post subject: Thursday September 22, 2005 @ 10:00PM Eastern Reply with quote

We are having a Counter-Racism Conference Call tonight, Thursday September 22, 2005 @ 10:00PM Eastern Time. The conference call number to call is 1-402-756-9000 and the participant code is 610046#.

The topic for discussion is Chuck D. criticizes the government's handling of Hurricane Katrina. You can finds the transcript and audio at the link above courtesy of MSNBC.

The objective is to establish words, and their definitions, strategies and techniques that will aid in the replacement of the SYSTEM of racism (white supremacy) with a SYSTEM of justice. Please take a moment to review the transcript and/or the video and jot down a few items that you think could've been said better (counter-racism compensatory language) or done better (counter-racism compensatory action) for the purpose of this discussion.

This conference call will be recorded for quality assurance and may also be run on the Counter-Racism Radio Network.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 9:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Counter-Racism Codetalk Conference Call Reply with quote

Edward Williams wrote:
We've had a couple of Counter-Racism Codetalk Conference Calls where different people from all over the globe get together to discuss replacing racism (white supremacy) with justice and the various strategies and techniques to do so. LadyJedi I apologize for not including you on the e-mail that went out. You will be included henceforth.

Here is an excerpt from the first session which included Josh Wickett, Edward Williams, and Lisa Fager of IndustryEars.com.
Counter-Racism Codetalk Conference Call (3.5MB MP3 File)

Here is an excerpt from the second session which included Prema, Josh Wickett, Edward Williams, Winston Wolfe, and Mel.
Counter-Racism Codetalk Conference Call (2.5MB MP3 File)

I will make sure each Counter-Racism Codetalk Conference Call is posted on this thread before it takes place and what the conference call number is. It weill also be posted on the Counter-Racism Web Calendar

Could you tell me how that post was unconstructive, please?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 9:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Counter-Racism Codetalk Conference Call Reply with quote

Dark Switch wrote:
Edward Williams wrote:
We've had a couple of Counter-Racism Codetalk Conference Calls where different people from all over the globe get together to discuss replacing racism (white supremacy) with justice and the various strategies and techniques to do so. LadyJedi I apologize for not including you on the e-mail that went out. You will be included henceforth.

Here is an excerpt from the first session which included Josh Wickett, Edward Williams, and Lisa Fager of IndustryEars.com.
Counter-Racism Codetalk Conference Call (3.5MB MP3 File)

Here is an excerpt from the second session which included Prema, Josh Wickett, Edward Williams, Winston Wolfe, and Mel.
Counter-Racism Codetalk Conference Call (2.5MB MP3 File)

I will make sure each Counter-Racism Codetalk Conference Call is posted on this thread before it takes place and what the conference call number is. It weill also be posted on the Counter-Racism Web Calendar

Could you tell me how that post was unconstructive, please?


To what post are you referring, DarkSwitch? One that has been deleted or followed by a lock? If so, don't expect a reply unless it is, itself, followed by a lock. But, you, keep following the logic brother.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 9:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Counter-Racism Codetalk Conference Call Reply with quote

HelixHair wrote:
Dark Switch wrote:
Edward Williams wrote:
We've had a couple of Counter-Racism Codetalk Conference Calls where different people from all over the globe get together to discuss replacing racism (white supremacy) with justice and the various strategies and techniques to do so. LadyJedi I apologize for not including you on the e-mail that went out. You will be included henceforth.

Here is an excerpt from the first session which included Josh Wickett, Edward Williams, and Lisa Fager of IndustryEars.com.
Counter-Racism Codetalk Conference Call (3.5MB MP3 File)

Here is an excerpt from the second session which included Prema, Josh Wickett, Edward Williams, Winston Wolfe, and Mel.
Counter-Racism Codetalk Conference Call (2.5MB MP3 File)

I will make sure each Counter-Racism Codetalk Conference Call is posted on this thread before it takes place and what the conference call number is. It weill also be posted on the Counter-Racism Web Calendar

Could you tell me how that post was unconstructive, please?


To what post are you referring, DarkSwitch? One that has been deleted or followed by a lock? If so, don't expect a reply unless it is, itself, followed by a lock. But, you, keep following the logic brother.

Thanks for the encouragement. I refer to this one, which was deleted. Without the formatting I spent care and attention to previously. Quick before it goes again.


"I have a few comments in response to the excerpt with Josh Wickett, Edward Williams, and Lisa Fager of IndustryEars.com.

I often see census and local authority or government forms which ask for a description of cultural/racial background. White people have the choices of White, White Irish, White Other.

It seems to depend in what arena the race surfaces. In some cases just "black" or people of color and white are used to describe perceived opposing cultural values. Years ago it seemed black was used as a 'catchall' in debates about influence of race in society. Of late we hear much mention of diversity and multiculturalism.

White Supremacy (racism) hides the sub-races or sub-divisions among white people, and promotes a unified and universal system/concept which privileges "white skin" and the factors associated with "white skin".

Differences of skin color, eye color and hair texture are natural - they result from the processess of evolution and our interaction with the environment. Differences are normal - people will always focus on differences when the occasion arises, but when the smartest and most powerful among whites concentrate on those differences and establish a System of In-justice, tha tis incorrect.

I've long analysed when fewer non-whites are around who are noticeably different, whites focus on each other start to mistreat each other on those differences. European history and popular culture bears this out. This is one way to come to selfhood, but again mistreatment on that basis is unnecessary in coming to know thy self. I suspect the exact nature of whiteness eludes even whites. It confuses them so better to concentrate on the non-whites.

They may not not know WHAT white is, or WHY they practice white supremacy (racism) but they know HOW to do it

Minimize the Conflict among us (white) and focus on them (non-white).

That is pure logic ... not racist or counter-racist."
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the current niggerized state of non-white people it is best, at times, in order to minimize conflict...for non-white people to minimize conflict by minimizing contact. Some non-white people just don't get it and won't get it, unfortunately.

This ain't no discussion board.

You can use this tool for what it is explained to be outlined for or you can attempt to use it for something else and have your posts deleted, locked, and/or have your threads locked or even your account inactivated or suspended.

If you'd like to discuss how white people view themselves you can go to the many discussion boards on the internet and talk about that with white people and non-white people. This ain't the feel good session where niggerized people pat themselves and/or each other on the back.

Put together a counter-racist scientific experiment so that I and/or others can do the Work to Study it and/or do the Work to run it. THE LOGIC will reveal itself and people can follow THE LOGIC instead of following niggerized people. Followers of people should not even post on the Counter-Racism Work/Study Project, even if you're following yourself and the result is non-constructive activity...niggerized activity. Once you begin to de-niggerize you begin to understand HOW things work and HOW to undo the work that is being done that results in a non-constructive outcome.

We (niggerized people) are truly children under the SYSTEM of racism (white supremacy). We can't even follow simple instructions. You have to keep telling niggers things over and over the same way you treat children and some of the niggers still don't get it. I know it's difficult for niggers to understand things but let me spell it out for you again in case you missed it the first time.

This ain't no discussion board.

Thank you very much and Happy Countering Racism (White Supremacy)!
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 9:27 am    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

Edward Williams wrote:
In the current niggerized state of non-white people it is best, at times, in order to minimize conflict...for non-white people to minimize conflict by minimizing contact. Some non-white people just don't get it and won't get it, unfortunately.

This ain't no discussion board.

You can use this tool for what it is explained to be outlined for or you can attempt to use it for something else and have your posts deleted, locked, and/or have your threads locked or even your account inactivated or suspended.

If you'd like to discuss how white people view themselves you can go to the many discussion boards on the internet and talk about that with white people and non-white people. This ain't the feel good session where niggerized people pat themselves and/or each other on the back.

Put together a counter-racist scientific experiment so that I and/or others can do the Work to Study it and/or do the Work to run it. THE LOGIC will reveal itself and people can follow THE LOGIC instead of following niggerized people. Followers of people should not even post on the Counter-Racism Work/Study Project, even if you're following yourself and the result is non-constructive activity...niggerized activity. Once you begin to de-niggerize you begin to understand HOW things work and HOW to undo the work that is being done that results in a non-constructive outcome.

We (niggerized people) are truly children under the SYSTEM of racism (white supremacy). We can't even follow simple instructions. You have to keep telling niggers things over and over the same way you treat children and some of the niggers still don't get it. I know it's difficult for niggers to understand things but let me spell it out for you again in case you missed it the first time.

This ain't no discussion board.

Thank you very much and Happy Countering Racism (White Supremacy)!

There is an announcement and an extract of a conversation posted. I had not realised that this talk was running on the C-R radio. As the extract was posted on the board, I added what I may have tried to say had I been at that conference. If this ain't no discussion board why was a discussion posted?

Isn't it ironic that John Legend has a Kanye West produced, I believe, track called Ordinary People with the line, "this time we'll take it slow"?

I've heard that the practical value of counter-racism code can more easily be apprehended if you slow down the thought process and take your time before acting. I've also read that counter-racism is about fast-forwarding the conversation.

One thread on this board has asked how to get more people involved in counter-racism? Perhaps the problem involves people needing to ask questions before putting their scientific experiment together. At present I can only make truthful or counter-racist scientific statements. I've been told I can ask questions here. But I could be incorrect.

I get the strictly defined purpose of this board... and what is discussion? It is currently highlighted at the top of every page on this board.

I'm reading and listening and trying to follow the logic that people are using. It is said that the preferred method of carrying out counter-racism questions and answers and following the logic.

When I do that, my questions seem disqualified because I have done an experiement yet. But they seem true and correct to me and I will remain a niggerised if I don't get the basic components locked in.

I cannot believe what I just heard on conference 2. My post in paralysis of analysis was deleted which contained a quote by Steve Biko. Now people are stating you have to work on yourself with the code. Also my question about infants and running in the membership thread still describes my condition just as truthfully as paralysis/niggerisation.

So if a non-white person makes a counter-racism suggestion, and I don't get the logic immediately, I can't use the process for doing something or else I will be following the person. But I may get it later on.

Who said that?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dark Switch,

Perhaps this is not the tool for you. This tool, the Counter-Racism Work/Study Project, is structured in such a manner that people do their own thinking and their own experiments, hopefully initially in reference to their own niggerization, on their own. The scientific method allows the individual to do their own work on themselves, on their own thoughts, on their own speech, on their own actions and THE LOGIC will reveal itself.

Niggers spend too much time massaging their own EGO and/or the EGO of someone else.

I'll give you the same advice I gave my daughter. You can take it or discard it...your choice.

To a bodybuilder, building muscle mass and muscle definition takes work. You just can't pick up weights and start lifting them any old kinda way and end up looking like Lee Haney. There is a science involved. It takes discipline. It takes a specific diet, a certain amount of sleep, specific foods including a specific amount of carbs, protein, etc. You also have to lift weights a certain way and when doing so you have to lift a specific amount of weight a specific amount of times (sets and reps). And the body remembers the the amount of weight and weight exercise being performed after a certain period of time so you'll have to vary the weight in the program and also vary the exercise on the muscle being built and at the same time vary your diet in accordance with the muscle group being built. The end result is what matters.

Counter-Racism is the same way. There is a science involved and there is a discipline. You just can't start using counter-racist language that other people write without understanding the counter-racist definitions of those words that lead you to counter-racist logic. You can take that route...the slow route...or you can follow THE LOGIC...the speed up process...and produce counter-racist code for other people to follow. You understand counter-racist logic by working on you. Like the ancients used to say "know thyself"...meaning your own niggerization is where the problem is. YOU is where the change starts...YOU already have the knowledge in your brain but you have to develop it like developing any other muscle in your body. Certain amount of sleep, specific amounts of counter-racism experiments, specific amounts of counter-racist language, a specific diet (what you consume in your brain), solving problems and in the process of doing so make sure no person is mistreated and also make sure the person who needs help the most get the most help.

THE LOGIC will reveal itself to you once you start doing the work. Don't take the long way around of talking to people for years and years, examining this word...that phrase...following people around...reading hundreds of books...studying everything the racists (white supremacists) does including how they pick their nose. This is the speed up process. Start testing everything you think to be true and everything you think to be false. Write your own experiments. Run your own experiments. Work on yourself (know thyself). And in a couple of years when there are people walking around talking about counter-racist language and which word is and which word isn't a "counter-racist word" or what is or is not a scientific experiment, you'll have the ability to enter any conversation no matter the subject and no matter the words being used and never bring up race at all...and be able to use speech and/or action and head in the direction of justice and take everyone in the conversation with you.

You'll be producing counter-racist code while other people who did not do the necessary work, but who have been involved in counter-racism code years longer than you, will still be wondering what the relationship is between words and thoughts or still trying to figure out why white people practice racism (white supremacy)...and then you can help them. I know what I'm talking about because I was doing it two years ago. I was living in Houston and flying to D.C. to hear Dr. Welsing speak and I was getting nowhere fast...until I began to work on myself and I began to follow THE LOGIC I have just given you. Following the speed-up process forces you to follow THE LOGIC...not people.

Niggers are so comfortable with being niggers they want to remain niggers and change the world around them at the same time. THE LOGIC doesn't work that way. You'll be uing niggerized thought...niggerized language...niggerized action...and getting niggerized results. You'll have to shed yourself of your comfortability with being a nigger and that is difficult to do because you're gonna be uncomfortable a lot of the time. But it'll pass once you start becoming comfortable with being uncomfortable.

"There is a difference between knowing the path and walking the path".
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We are having a Counter-Racism Conference Call on Thursday evening October 6, 2005 @ 10:00PM Eastern Time. The conference call number to call is 1-402-756-9000 and the participant code is 610046#.

The topic for discussion will be using the scientific method for countering racism (white supremacy).

The objective is to establish words, and their definitions, strategies and techniques that will aid in the replacement of the SYSTEM of racism (white supremacy) with a SYSTEM of justice. Please take a moment to jot down a few items that you think would be excellent compensatory counter-racism strategies and techniques for discussion once the topic is announced.

This conference call will be recorded for quality assurance and may also be run on the Counter-Racism Radio Network.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 12:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We are having a Counter-Racism Conference Call on Sunday evening October 23, 2005 @ 8:00PM Eastern Time. The conference call number to call is 1-402-756-9000 and the participant code is 610046#.

The topic for discussion will be counter-racist strategies and techniques that can be used to help Becca and her classmates who sent the following e-mail:

Becca wrote:
My name is Rebecca Fernandez and I am a junior at Vassar College in
Poughkeepsie, NU, majoring in Women's Studies & Sociology. I am writing to you in response to a problem we, a group of students of color and white students, have come up against in the last 72 plus hours on our campus.

A college publication calling itself conservative has printed racist, demeaning articles and images in their paper and disseminated it across campus, under the protection of freedom of speech. We, as a group, have brought our issue before the student government and administration and both times been told in few more words, "such is life for a minority."

We have been told to get over it, that it is harmless and that our claim that
the hostile environment that has erupted on campus leading to inequality of opportunity of education is ridiculous. We do not believe this to be true.

Since, Overthrow.com, the Nationalist Socialist Party website has picked
up the story and run specific names calling them "monkeys" and "niggers," and we now have students quite literally fearful for their lives, and others fearful to speak up, the greatest tragedy thus far. A piece was ruin on the UPN 9 news station last week, calling Vassar College racist in its non-action. We agree. Yet, we continue to receive nothing but administrator defense of this issue being just a fact of life.

I am writing to ask for help. We had decided to run a rally and teach-ins the day (October 26, Wednesday, 3-9pm generally) that the administration
has given the offending racist organization an open platform and a microphone from which to marginalize us further. We would like to know if
there is anyone at your organization that would be willing to help save us
by hosting (teaching) a teach-in on racism, equal opportunity if education, freedom of speech and its responsibilities or to speak at a rally on these issues. We desperately need the help and would be willing to pay for transportation and meals (we realistically have no funds beyond that).

Below is a blog that alumni have put together to keep people informed and has nearly all documents that have emerged surrounding this issue.
www.vassarsolidarity.blogspot.com

The objective is to establish words, and their definitions, strategies and techniques that will aid in the replacement of the SYSTEM of racism (white supremacy) with a SYSTEM of justice. Please take a moment to jot down a few items that you think would be excellent compensatory counter-racism strategies and techniques for discussion once the topic is announced.

This conference call will be recorded for quality assurance and may also be run on the Counter-Racism Radio Network.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would like to have a Counter Racist Conference Call about specific problems that Non-white female/males encounter, and solutions to those problems. Each person invovled in the conference call can share a problem and/or a solution with other callers etc. The purpose being to share constructive information in the area of sex while at the same time countering Racism (White Supremacy).

The conference call will be held on Sunday, October 6th, 2005 at 8:00PM

The conference call number to call is 1-402-756-9000 and the participant code is 610046#.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 12:37 am    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

mel wrote:
I would like to have a Counter Racist Conference Call about specific problems that Non-white female/males encounter, and solutions to those problems. Each person invovled in the conference call can share a problem and/or a solution with other callers etc. The purpose being to share constructive information in the area of sex while at the same time countering Racism (White Supremacy).

The conference call will be held on Sunday, October 6th, 2005 at 8:00PM

The conference call number to call is 1-402-756-9000 and the participant code is 610046#.

November 6th, 2005 at 8:00PM? Eastern? Pacific?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 11:40 am    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

Edward Williams wrote:
mel wrote:
I would like to have a Counter Racist Conference Call about specific problems that Non-white female/males encounter, and solutions to those problems. Each person invovled in the conference call can share a problem and/or a solution with other callers etc. The purpose being to share constructive information in the area of sex while at the same time countering Racism (White Supremacy).

The conference call will be held on Sunday, October 6th, 2005 at 8:00PM

The conference call number to call is 1-402-756-9000 and the participant code is 610046#.

November 6th, 2005 at 8:00PM? Eastern? Pacific?


Peace and blessings,

Mr. Williams

Does your questioning mean there will be no conference?

This is a topic I find interesting and would like to participate in order to gain insite into better communications with my son.

(I know we tend to think of male and female issues as strictly the pursuit of sex or a potential partner, however there is more to this problem than relieving addictions or trying to relieve loneliness under this sytem)

To my knowledge there have been no emails sent out stating weather this conference is definite.

Could someone please update me on the progress of this conference
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 11:54 am    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

Ladyjedi-Djedet wrote:
Edward Williams wrote:
mel wrote:
I would like to have a Counter Racist Conference Call about specific problems that Non-white female/males encounter, and solutions to those problems. Each person invovled in the conference call can share a problem and/or a solution with other callers etc. The purpose being to share constructive information in the area of sex while at the same time countering Racism (White Supremacy).

The conference call will be held on Sunday, October 6th, 2005 at 8:00PM

The conference call number to call is 1-402-756-9000 and the participant code is 610046#.

November 6th, 2005 at 8:00PM? Eastern? Pacific?


Peace and blessings,

Mr. Williams

Does your questioning mean there will be no conference?

This is a topic I find interesting and would like to participate in order to gain insite into better communications with my son.

(I know we tend to think of male and female issues as strictly the pursuit of sex or a potential partner, however there is more to this problem than relieving addictions or trying to relieve loneliness under this sytem)

To my knowledge there have been no emails sent out stating weather this conference is definite.

Could someone please update me on the progress of this conference

I suspect the conference call will happen this evening. I asked the question to Mel who posted October 6 rather than November 6. Non-white people don't pay enough attention to details and I know because I don't and I didn't want anyone to be confused about then the conference call was going to happen. I suspect it will be tonight, November 6, 2005 at 8:00PM Eastern time but I could be incorrect.

I encourage anyone to announce a conference call they are going to have that relates to replacing racism (white supremacy) with justice. You don't have to wait on me to announce one and you can even get your own conference number. Go to www.freeconferencecall.com and type in a few of the criteria (name and e-mail address) and they will give you a conference call number that is good for 4 months without charge. And they will send you a monthly report and a report when anyone uses your phone line via e-mail.

As soon as I can get Mel to respond we will know for sure. I called him just now and left a message when I saw your post.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Mr. Williams. I don't always pay attention to details and therefore apologize for the confusion. I hope that Non-white males and females will find this conference call on attempted relationships helpful.

Again the Counter Racist Conference Call will be TONIGHT, November 6th, 2005 at 8:00PM (EST). The topic is Non-white Female and Male Attempted Relationships: Solving Specific Problems.

Each person invovled in the conference call can share a problem and/or a solution with other callers etc. The purpose being to share constructive information in the area of sex while at the same time countering Racism (White Supremacy).
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