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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2003 6:52 am    Post subject: Finding out HOW racism white supremacy works... Reply with quote

There are several ways to go about finding out HOW the SYSTEM of racism white supremacy works so that you can go about the business of countering it in an effort to replace the SYSTEM of white supremacy racism with a SYSTEM of justice.

(1) Study everything that has ever been said and/or done by any person that has ever existed before the beginning of time and since.

Good Luck!

(2) Ask a white supremacists racists.

More difficult than number (1) if you plan to get answers that reveal truth about exactly what racism white supremacy is and HOW it works.

(3) Ask a white person.

You don't have to ask white people direct questions such as "HOW does racism white supremacy work?". It is virtually impossible to make any traction that way. One way is to find out what a white person is, what a white person isn't, what a white person says, what a white person doesn't say, what a white person does, and what a white person doesn't do.

Racism white supremacy is BEHAVIOR, specifically BEHAVIOR by white people who mistreat people on the basis of COLOR or NON-COLOR. The secret of white supremacy racism can be found in the mechanics of HOW a white person FUNCTIONS.

I have listed a "starter-kit" of questions to ask white people that will aid in finding out exactly what racism white supremacy is and HOW it FUNCTIONS. Be warned, my experience is that whenever I'm talking to a white person about race and ask these questions the person eventually says they're not white, even when they initially say they are white. I suspect this is because the closer you get to the truth about racism white supremacy, what it is and how it FUNCTIONS, the further a white person gets away from being white.

(1) Are YOU White?
-If the person doesn't say they are white you're wasting your time. Don't go for;

(1a) I'm from...
(1b) My mother is...
(1c) My father is...
(1d) There are different degrees of being white...
(1e) My skin is white...(no one's skin is white. If you go down this road get a chase lounge and a cool refreshing drink...you're gonna be a while. Keep the conversation on what a white person has to do to be white. If you're not a microbiologist how are you qualified to talk about genetics?)
(1f) On my grandmother's sister's side...
(1g) I'm a... (I've heard lots of things such as, a Jew, a Hispanic, a white Hispanic, a Germanic, etc.) Whenever people say these things I always say "yes, but are you white". People know what that means. If they still don't understand you might want to ask question 5.

Go with the 3 identifiers at all times, which are, a white person;

(1) Classifies themselves as white and have been classified as white.
(2) Accepted as white by other people classified as white.
(3) Functions as white in all places and at all times.

If the person says they're white go on to question number 2.

(2) What is a white person?

(2a) Don't follow the skin or the mentality angle. For skin see (1e). A mentality doesn't DO anything. Remember, keep the conversation on function. People can think what they want to. It is words and/or action which is the mistreatment. You can't mistreat someone with your mentality.
(2b) Stay focused on the 3 identifiers. You may have to repeat each one asking each one, individually, to the person that says they are white.
(2c) Let the person answer you.

Go on to question number 3.

(3) When did you find out you were white?

(3a) My experience is whenever the person found out they were white it always surrounds the mistreatment of someone that wasn't white and they were not mistreated. This is the reason I define racism (white supremacy) as mistreatment on the basis of color and/or factors associated with color.
(3b) Stay away from "I was born white..." (doesn't reveal truth)
(3c) Stay away from "I was raised that way..." (doesn't reveal truth)
(3d) Try to find out what happened EXACTLY. What words were used and/or what actions were used that revealed to the person they were white. This is the practical value for being white.
(3e) Let the person answer you.

Go on to question 4. (If you get this far. Usually by now the white person has reached what I call the saturation point. They are feeling they are getting further from being white. They may have to mistreat you by cursing at you, screaming at you, name-calling, hitting you or they may have to go watch Gone with the Wind or a John Wayne movie to feel white again).

(4) How do you know when someone is white?

(4a) See (1e)!
(4b) See (2a)! Don't go for the "mentality" angle.
(4c) Keep your logic on the 3 identifiers at all times.

Go on to question 5. (If you get this far)

(5) Have you ever been mistaken for a non-white person by a person that is classified as white?

(5a) This tell the story about whether the person has been mistreated on the basis of color and/or factors associated with color. If a person has EVER been mistaken for a non-white person by a white person they have been mistreated on the basis of color and/or factors associated with color. Logically speaking, that's the whole purpose.
(5b) This question can also be asked in the process of finding an answer to question 1.
(5c) If the person says "yes", according to the 3 identifiers, the person is non-white, even if the person seems to be functioning as white around you.

(6) What does white people do to replace mistreatment of people based on color with justice.

(6a) Use the definition of justice as "guaranteeing that no person is mistreated and guaranteeing the person that needs the most help gets the most help". (I have found that any other definition is easily picked apart by white people)
(6b) Focus the conversation on words and/or actions. (Don't go for the "you have to believe" mentality)
(6c) This is really where you want to take the conversation, finding how to get out of the prison of injustice (racism/white supremacy). Only the warden or the guards can tell you that.


Here are some tips to use when talking to white people.

(1) Use the least amount of words possible. (you will see that very quickly the white person will start to answer you in less than 5 words)
(2) Conversation format of your words and/or actions;
(2a) Use your poker face. (Try not to have a lot of expressions. White people read these very well.)
(2b) Make a response (Be brief. I will usually say "that's interesting"), make a brief statement, ask a question. (Always end in asking a question.


Ask these 5 questions, if you can, and notice the response of white people when you want to find out what words and/or actions are necessary to use in order to be white. White people generally have what I call an allergic reaction to non-white people asking questions about racism (white supremacy) and how it functions. Inmates aren't supposed to ask a guard about how the prison is maintained, in terms of blueprint.

Ask these questions to as many white people as you can and you'll begin to see just how connected white people are. You will not believe your ears nor your eyes. Take you time. If you need any assistance let me know. I'm trying to get out of this prison as well.
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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2003 9:00 am    Post subject: Counter-Racism Strategies and Techniques Reply with quote

Thanks. This is very helpful.

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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2003 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hot Shit.
Thanks.

These are some very strong questions. Asking...
asking white people these questions may be the best/first thing that we can do about racism.
Wow.
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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2003 9:49 am    Post subject: finding out how White supremacy works Reply with quote

Also, heres one for extra credit.

If you are talking to a person who classifies themselves as White, point at other people in the room and ask the White person to "judge" them on whether they are a White person too.

Its more interesting if the White person doesn't know the person "personally".

Take a moment to think about what you are asking when you ask this question.

I'll let VGOD explain his theory about the question.

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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2003 1:24 pm    Post subject: Re: finding out how White supremacy works Reply with quote

Josh wrote:
Also, heres one for extra credit.

If you are talking to a person who classifies themselves as White, point at other people in the room and ask the White person to "judge" them on whether they are a White person too.

Its more interesting if the White person doesn't know the person "personally".

Take a moment to think about what you are asking when you ask this question.

I'll let VGOD explain his theory about the question.

Josh


The hypothesis can be found under Counter-Racist Science Project under "Solidifying Suspicion".
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2003 1:23 am    Post subject: Counter-Racism Strategies and Techniques Reply with quote

I was sitting at work the other day and a young White male that I work with asked me some information about appealing a disciplinary action that was taken against him. I gave him the information and then I proceeded to chat with him for a while and during the conversation I had asked:

Are you a White person?

He said "Yes"

Then I said "Okay" When did you find out you were a White person?

He told me he knew he was White person when he looked in the mirror.

I kinda smiled to myself and then I asked:
What do you have to do be a White person and he said he didn't want to talk about this anymore? He never said what "this" was but I know he was talking about Racism/White supremacy and he was not going to give any info or reveal truth. Well, maybe I'll have better luck next time.

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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2003 7:48 am    Post subject: Re: Counter-Racism Strategies and Techniques Reply with quote

Trina wrote:
I was sitting at work the other day and a young White male that I work with asked me some information about appealing a disciplinary action that was taken against him. I gave him the information and then I proceeded to chat with him for a while and during the conversation I had asked:

Are you a White person?

He said "Yes"

Then I said "Okay" When did you find out you were a White person?

He told me he knew he was White person when he looked in the mirror.

I kinda smiled to myself and then I asked:
What do you have to do be a White person and he said he didn't want to talk about this anymore? He never said what "this" was but I know he was talking about Racism/White supremacy and he was not going to give any info or reveal truth. Well, maybe I'll have better luck next time.

Trina


Isn't that interesting? A white person that refuses to give a non-white person constructive information...under the SYSTEM of white supremacy racism?

Trina, I suspect you could've just been mistreated on the basis of color.
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2003 5:31 pm    Post subject: smallz Reply with quote

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Trina: Then I said "Okay" When did you find out you were a White person?
He told me he knew he was White person when he looked in the mirror.


I have also heard this response (non-answer) to the the question:

When did you find out you were a white person?

That response was a nigger-product when I first heard it and it still is.

Logically speaking, how did he find out that he is a white person by looking in the mirror, if his skin is not "white"?

See what I mean?

Race-ism is a behavoiral system, and within it, COLOR equals FUNCTION.

Question:
So how does a white person find out that they are classified as white?

Hypothesis:
I suspect white people find out that they ARE white the second that they understand that they are not subject to being mistreated on the basis of COLOR. (i.e., nigger jokes, gettin followed in the grocery store, etc, etc....)

Intrestingly, I also suspect that the mirror-image of this hypothesis is also how non-white people find out that they are NOT White.

I suspect non-white people find out that they ARE NOT white the second that they understand THEY ARE subject to being mistreated on the basis of COLOR. (i.e., nigger jokes, gettin followed in the grocery store, etc, etc....)

When I was in grade school and it was time to play "COPS AND ROBBERS", I remember being told by people who I suspect where White, told that I couldn't be the "COP" I had to be the "ROBBER".

V_God shares a similar story relating to the school-yard game: COWBOYS AND INDIANS

**Also I'd like to add that I think that my hypothesis relating to "how" white people find out that they are white, especially pertains to a white person who has been in close proximity to black people for any extended period of time.

Black people make reference to this type of white person as someone who is White but, "down", "cool", or last but not least "one of us"

I think the best example of this is type of white person I can think of now is none other than EMINEM.

I could be wrong but, I suspect those are the white people who have become extremly refined in HOW to practice Racsim under the nose of a black person or black people, without even being suspected.

Cause Eminem stands right next to bus-loads of niggaz in concerts, calls himself white over and over, but never uses the word "Nigger". Even if the niggaz on stage with him are using it.

Sup with that shit!?

What more can make a white person feel white other than standing right next to a nigger?

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(P.S. to answer my last question: PRACTICE RACISM)
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2003 8:26 am    Post subject: Re: smallz Reply with quote

smallz wrote:


Black people make reference to this type of white person as someone who is White but, "down", "cool", or last but not least "one of us"

I think the best example of this is type of white person I can think of now is none other than EMINEM.

I could be wrong but, I suspect those are the white people who have become extremly refined in HOW to practice Racsim under the nose of a black person or black people, without even being suspected.

Cause Eminem stands right next to bus-loads of niggaz in concerts, calls himself white over and over, but never uses the word "Nigger". Even if the niggaz on stage with him are using it.

Sup with that shit!?

What more can make a white person feel white other than standing right next to a nigger?

(P.S. to answer my last question: PRACTICE RACISM)


Smallz; I'm not sure I understand the complete logic of what you said. As I understand things, people can't choose to be non-white if the que they get from both whites and non-whites is that they are white. The question I want to know is can someone accept the "white" lable and choose not to practice white supremacy? The larger question; under a system of white supremacy, is someone either its victim or one of its perpitrators? Is there a choice (for whites at least)?

The fact that Eminem chooses not to use the term nigger even though the non-white people that surround him freely use it, doesn't sound like an expression of white supremacy (mistreating someone on the basis of colour) to me.

Were he to use it, you KNOW it would offend some of those same non-white people so why go there?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2003 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wickett Fan wrote:
The fact that Eminem chooses not to use the term nigger


Actually, as of late he has. I just caught he and D-12 (his group) on BET Rap Basment and he said "I'm better than these Niggers.. " in his FREESTYLE... So yea. Correction, I suspect he practices Racism white supremacy.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2003 2:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

copious wrote:
Wickett Fan wrote:
The fact that Eminem chooses not to use the term nigger


Actually, as of late he has. I just caught he and D-12 (his group) on BET Rap Basment and he said "I'm better than these Niggers.. " in his FREESTYLE... So yea. Correction, I suspect he practices Racism white supremacy.


I'll take your word for it since I don't watch BET....since it was sold. Ok, that he said it offends me and the full context (whatever it was) in which he said it doesn't matter to me. However, according to what you first said you suggested the fact that he was not saying it up till recently was what led you to suspect he was practicing racism. Since he is now saying it how can that (in an of itself) deepen your suspision that he practices racism? By your initial reasoning, should not the opposite be true?

Again, this is not to say that you are not right in your conclusion. Its just that I don't understand how you systematically reached that conclusion using to Code.
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